[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu - Wrong Direction?

Phill Whiteside phillw at ubuntu.com
Fri Dec 2 00:58:53 UTC 2011

I certainly do not wish to partake in a flame war. People are naturally
conservative. Take for example how long it took for Lubuntu to gain
adoption. If you are unhappy with Unity, then try any of the other flavours
of Ubuntu. I have to disclose an interest in Lubuntu as I've been with it
and helping since 9.10. I echo the words about Unity, getting a new build
is no mean feat!.



On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 12:03 AM, Gareth France <gareth.france at gmail.com>wrote:

> I don't think it's going in the wrong direction, no. Firstly bare in mind
> that old Gnome is dead, whatever they chose to do the problem of a buggy,
> new interface would be there. You said it yourself, mint is so great but
> MSGE regularly crashes, so they aren't doing any better are they?
> Yes you have to be open to Unity and take time to adjust to it but I've
> been getting along just fine with it. There are some things I'm hoping they
> will change but for the most part it's all good. I'm not seeing the system
> being unresponsive or any memory leaks at all.
> The distrowatch figures are meaningless, they only show how many people
> are taking an interest in the distrowatch pages. I am already a Ubuntu
> user, I already know where to get Ubuntu, so why would I look at the Ubuntu
> page on distrowatch? Besides Ubuntu is back on the up, over the last week
> and a half the figures have been steadily climbing back to their old
> selves. Take into account the surge caused by Mint's new version release
> this week and it won't be long before all is back to normal again.
> All this referring to distrowatch figures as proof of a decline is
> scaremongering. Just remember Unity was built in 6 months and has only had
> a further 6 to mature. All things considered it's a miracle they built a
> working product in that time at all! I'm sure once it's finished cooking
> Unity will be fantastic.
> On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:52 PM, <thegeeksquadron at ymail.com> wrote:
>> Is Ubuntu going in the wrong direction? For starters, it seems as though
>> hordes of users - including myself have switched over to Linux Mint and
>> Arch in some cases.
>> I've been using Ubuntu since Hardy and am sad to leave it go, but the
>> last two versions have been buggy beyond belief, and furthermore Unity is
>> for tablets and Netbooks, not Desktops and laptops.
>> The attitude of Canonical is so poor - so many users have been saying
>> what they want; they've ignored, and Linux Mint has filled the hole. Mint
>> 11 was perfect; Mint 12, I'm not liking Gnome 3 MSGE, regularly crashes,
>> but they're supporting MATE - which is the future as far as I am concerned,
>> along with the old Gnome 2.x as well.
>> Ubuntu just lags and lags and is so irresponsive. The memory leaks so
>> badly lately - which was the reason I made the Mint switchover that so many
>> are doing.
>> Not trying to start a flame war, but I loved the OLD Ubuntu, now that
>> Ubuntu is Mint.
>> Ditch Unity, change the attitude and we're onto a winner again.
>> Is this a sneek peek of Win8, supposedly 'tablet/mobile and desktop', in
>> a way I kinda hope so ;) - at least Windows will be gone. Seriously, you
>> only have to look at DistroWatch to count down the days before Mint
>> overtakes its base, as Ubuntu did with Debian.
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