[ubuntu-uk] Very Off Topic - Apologies in advance.

Bill Cumming bill at s0l.co.uk
Thu Apr 14 20:42:09 UTC 2011


It's a good idea.

You just need a secure way to get the data and then to return it to the
client.

Most places will accept mainly physical drives (better chance of recovering
all the data), but will send the data back to the client on either multiple
CD/DVD/Blu-Ray Disks, HDDs, Tapes or a Secure FTP site.

On 14 April 2011 21:03, Dave Hanson <d.hanson at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>  Thanks for the tips everyone.
>
> I think I need to have a serious sit down and plan exactly how I'm going to
> go about it.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Dave Hanson
>
>
>
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> > 1. Re: Please help with research ... (Andr?s Mu?iz Piniella)
> > 2. Very Off Topic - Apologies in advance. (Dave Hanson)
> > 3. Re: Very Off Topic - Apologies in advance. (Tyler J. Wagner)
> > 4. Re: Please help with research ... (Barry Drake)
> > 5. Re: Very Off Topic - Apologies in advance. (Philip Newborough)
> > 6. Re: Very Off Topic - Apologies in advance. (Simon Greenwood)
> > 7. Re: Very Off Topic - Apologies in advance. (Chris Wilson)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 13:36:38 +0100
> > From: Andr?s Mu?iz Piniella <andresmp at gmail.com>
> > To: ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
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> > One more question:
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> > Should they use wubi, live cd or request install (backup, defrag)...
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> > Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 15:28:42 +0100
> > From: Dave Hanson <d.hanson at hotmail.co.uk>
> > To: ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> > Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Very Off Topic - Apologies in advance.
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> > Hiya Everyone,
> >
> > I was wondering if might ask an off topic question please as I assume
> > that there are many people on this list who may do something similar?
> >
> > I'm planning on doing some data recovery work from home when I finish my
> > degree (Computer Forensics Bsc), My plan is to promote myself through my
> > Wordpress powered blog (shameless plug: hansonforensics.co.uk). - It is
> > on an Ubuntu Server! ;)
> >
> > I need some sort of ecommerce plugin for Wordpress which will allow
> > clients, and myself to upload large files (HDD Images, so I'm talking
> > GB's) and take payment from them for recovering their files and things -
> > Obviosly not every job would involve huge amounts of data, but some may.
> >
> > The main problem is that I would prefer to take either the expected
> > amount in full and reserve it until the job is completed, with the
> > option of returning it to the client or take a small diagnostic fee in
> > advance and log what fee came from who/what job number.
> >
> > Could anyone reccomend a plugin or perhaps share how they conduct such
> > transactions?
> >
> > Thanks - And as I say, Apologies in advance for being off topic.
> >
> > Dave
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 15:45:34 +0100
> > From: "Tyler J. Wagner" <tyler at tolaris.com>
> > To: UK Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Very Off Topic - Apologies in advance.
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> > On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 15:28 +0100, Dave Hanson wrote:
> > > I need some sort of ecommerce plugin for Wordpress which will allow
> > > clients, and myself to upload large files (HDD Images, so I'm talking
> > > GB's) and take payment from them for recovering their files and things
> -
> > > Obviosly not every job would involve huge amounts of data, but some
> may.
> >
> > I don't think you'll be able to accept such large files. Is the PHP
> > upload size limited by available RAM? Even if not, even a typical disk
> > image is 250 GB these days, and the smallest harddrives people still
> > regularly use are 40 GB.
> >
> > As for the money, it sounds like you want something like Ubercart +
> > Drupal, not Wordpress.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tyler
> >
> > --
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> > side-effect of defending human rights, so be it."
> > -- Johann Hari
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 15:57:57 +0100
> > From: Barry Drake <bdrake at crosswire.org>
> > To: UK Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Please help with research ...
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> >
> > On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 13:36 +0100, Andr?s Mu?iz Piniella wrote:
> > > Should they use wubi, live cd or request install (backup, defrag)...
> >
> > I've asked my volunteers to run the LiveCD .... that way, I can offer
> > help by running a liveCD on my box while I talk to them. I can't use
> > wubi as I don't have a computer with Windows these days.
> >
> > Regards, Barry.
> > --
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> > http://ubuntuadverts.org/
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> >
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 16:03:33 +0100
> > From: Philip Newborough <corenominal at corenominal.org>
> > To: UK Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Very Off Topic - Apologies in advance.
> > Message-ID: <BANLkTinSRmG017UfVSXCnW=YzMmQJzRJCQ at mail.gmail.com>
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> >
> > On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Tyler J. Wagner <tyler at tolaris.com>
> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2011-04-14 at 15:28 +0100, Dave Hanson wrote:
> > >> I need some sort of ecommerce plugin for Wordpress which will allow
> > >> clients, and myself to upload large files (HDD Images, so I'm talking
> > >> GB's) and take payment from them for recovering their files and things
> -
> > >> Obviosly not every job would involve huge amounts of data, but some
> may.
> > >
> > > I don't think you'll be able to accept such large files. Is the PHP
> > > upload size limited by available RAM? Even if not, even a typical disk
> > > image is 250 GB these days, and the smallest harddrives people still
> > > regularly use are 40 GB.
> > >
> >
> > It is probably doable, but probably not practical, at those sizes it
> > would be quicker to use snail mail. Also, I am not sure what volume of
> > business you will be doing, but snail mail would probably be much
> > cheaper too.
> >
> > If I was going to provide this service online, my main concern, after
> > setting up the hosting provisions, would be the client's connection,
> > as it would be an unknown entity. I would hate to have spent time and
> > money setting it up, only for it to be useless for the majority of
> > clients. :(
> >
> > I hope this has not put too much of a downer on your idea. Providing a
> > data recovery service is cool, I am just not sure about the need to
> > make it more complicated than need be.
> >
> > Good luck with it! :)
> >
> > -- Philip
> >
> >
> >
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> > Message: 6
> > Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 16:32:37 +0100
> > From: Simon Greenwood <sfgreenwood at gmail.com>
> > To: UK Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Very Off Topic - Apologies in advance.
> > Message-ID: <BANLkTimZ=Nj+5vDq38vb4DQGBmSuTfYZxQ at mail.gmail.com>
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> >
> > On 14 April 2011 15:28, Dave Hanson <d.hanson at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Hiya Everyone,
> > >
> > > I was wondering if might ask an off topic question please as I assume
> that
> > > there are many people on this list who may do something similar?
> > >
> > > I'm planning on doing some data recovery work from home when I finish
> my
> > > degree (Computer Forensics Bsc), My plan is to promote myself through
> my
> > > Wordpress powered blog (shameless plug: hansonforensics.co.uk). - It
> is on
> > > an Ubuntu Server! ;)
> > >
> > > I need some sort of ecommerce plugin for Wordpress which will allow
> > > clients, and myself to upload large files (HDD Images, so I'm talking
> GB's)
> > > and take payment from them for recovering their files and things -
> Obviosly
> > > not every job would involve huge amounts of data, but some may.
> > >
> > > The main problem is that I would prefer to take either the expected
> amount
> > > in full and reserve it until the job is completed, with the option of
> > > returning it to the client or take a small diagnostic fee in advance
> and log
> > > what fee came from who/what job number.
> > >
> > > Could anyone reccomend a plugin or perhaps share how they conduct such
> > > transactions?
> > >
> > > Thanks - And as I say, Apologies in advance for being off topic.
> > >
> >
> > I'd also concur that it's not a good idea. Among other things you can't
> > guarantee the veracity of the file that you receive - that's why you have
> > MD5 hashes and suchlike.
> >
> > At a pinch you could offer a secure FTP/SFTP server but you'd still need
> to
> > be able to prove that what arrived at the server was the same as what
> left
> > the client, which would seem to be a fundamental component of a computer
> > forensics service.
> >
> > s/
> >
> > >
> >
> > --
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> > Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 16:46:47 +0100
> > From: Chris Wilson <afrowildo at gmail.com>
> > To: UK Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Very Off Topic - Apologies in advance.
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> > If it was me, I wouldn't attempt to do these things using my own hosted
> > services for fear that something would go wrong due to my inexperience,
> > tarnishing my reputation with the clients. Instead, I would use Amazon
> Web
> > Services (http://aws.amazon.com/) for accepting the disk image. AWS is a
> > company spun off from amazon.com for the purpose of commercialising the
> > technology the Amazon uses in it's own operations, and one of the
> > services available is S3 (Simple Storage Service
> http://aws.amazon.com/s3/).
> > You would simply send your client a link that would allow them to upload
> > their image and you would download it at your end. There's also a number
> of
> > consumer-oriented services that use S3 that you could look at (
> > http://aws.amazon.com/customerapps/Amazon-S3/Consumers).
> >
> > As for payments, I've used PayPal for selling stuff on eBay, including
> > issuing refunds once of twice, and it exactly fits the specification you
> > described - money can be held in PayPal for some amount of time and parts
> of
> > it can be withdrawn to you bank account, or you can hit the 'Refund'
> button
> > to send it all back to the client. The connection to paypal.com is also
> > encrypted by default, which is one less (very expensive) thing you would
> > have to worry about yourself. There's also Google Checkout and Amazon
> have
> > their own checkout system.
> >
> > But this all depends on how much trust you're willing to place in
> > third-party hosted services. Personally, I've always found that using
> > someone else's tried and tested product/service, rather than building my
> > own, is always far easier than trying to reinvent the wheel.
> >
> > Hope that helps,
> > Chris
> >
> > On 14 April 2011 15:28, Dave Hanson <d.hanson at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> > > Hiya Everyone,
> > >
> > > I was wondering if might ask an off topic question please as I assume
> that
> > > there are many people on this list who may do something similar?
> > >
> > > I'm planning on doing some data recovery work from home when I finish
> my
> > > degree (Computer Forensics Bsc), My plan is to promote myself through
> my
> > > Wordpress powered blog (shameless plug: hansonforensics.co.uk). - It
> is on
> > > an Ubuntu Server! ;)
> > >
> > > I need some sort of ecommerce plugin for Wordpress which will allow
> > > clients, and myself to upload large files (HDD Images, so I'm talking
> GB's)
> > > and take payment from them for recovering their files and things -
> Obviosly
> > > not every job would involve huge amounts of data, but some may.
> > >
> > > The main problem is that I would prefer to take either the expected
> amount
> > > in full and reserve it until the job is completed, with the option of
> > > returning it to the client or take a small diagnostic fee in advance
> and log
> > > what fee came from who/what job number.
> > >
> > > Could anyone reccomend a plugin or perhaps share how they conduct such
> > > transactions?
> > >
> > > Thanks - And as I say, Apologies in advance for being off topic.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
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