[ubuntu-uk] Test

Rowan Berkeley rowan.berkeley at googlemail.com
Fri Mar 20 15:04:27 GMT 2009

Thanks for explaining that, Al; since I had exactly the same problem
when joining this list, I have been more careful to change all my
subscription addresses to googlemail.com

On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 14:56 +0000, Alan Pope wrote:
> 2009/3/20 Rowan Berkeley <rowan.berkeley at googlemail.com>:
> > Many servers think that gmail and googlemail are two different things,
> > so if your emailer sends out your return address as googlemail and you
> > personally send it out as gmail, this can cause problems.
> >
> That's not the "servers" fault, but googles.
> Anyone who signed up for a "Google Mail" account before the court case
> in which it was revealed GMail was a trademark held by another company
> would have an @gmail account. Those who registered after would have an
> @googlemail account. The problem comes in that google still accept
> mail addressed to @gmail to people with @googlemail accounts. However
> when people with @googlemail accounts send email it appears to come
> from @googlemail and not @gmail.
> This means that people with @googlemail accounts believe falsely that
> they have a @gmail account. So they sign up for mailing lists (like
> this one) as foo.bar at gmail.com and then wonder why their mail to the
> list bounces because they're not subscribed. The reason being that
> mailman will send the confirmation mail to @gmail but any mails the
> user sends to the list will appear to come from @googlemail and as
> such mailman spits it out complaining that the @googlemail is not
> subscribed to that mailing list.
> In my mind that's googles fault for not educating the users about
> their address and the implications of having an @googlemail account,
> and not rejecting @gmail mail for @googlemail accounts.
> Cheers,
> Al.

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