[ubuntu-uk] Running restore disc for Ubuntu

[Rowan]

That was our interim conclusion, Simon, but it now appears that the 
problem is more complex. What happened was this: the suppliers sent the 
machine out to me with automatic updates switched on, and being a 
first-time user  I allowed it to download and attempt to install a  
whole series of  updates, including kernel updates, as soon as I got it 
out of the box and connected it to the net.  It got some way through 
installing these updates, but when it found that the default driver, the 
r8169, was missing, it got stuck. The various OTHER  partially installed 
updates appear to have knocked out various other things, such as 
src/Makefile, and this is why I want to reinstall their configuration, 
with the r8168, but with updates switched off.

Simon Wears wrote:
> I missed the first lot of emails about this, so I may be WAY off the  
> point here.
>
> Looking at that last email, are you having network issues with the  
> r8168 driver? If so, I had that with Hardy, on a Realtek network card.  
> I can't remember entirely what I did, but I know I posted about it on  
> the Ubuntu forums.
>
> If that's your problem (or one of) I can try dig out what I did to fix  
> it for you.
>
> Simon Wears
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>
> On 5 Mar 2009, at 14:06, Rowan <rowan.berkeley at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> I think we have provided immense amounts of information detailing
>> exactly the commands that Rowan needs to recompile and reinstall his
>> driver. Either he knuckles down and tries it ...
>>
>> I already did just that, I believe:
>>
>> type the following as root or using sudo to rebuild the r8168 driver:
>> cd /root/lc2000/r8168-8.008.00
>> make clean modules
>> make install
>> depmod -a
>> reboot
>>
>> "cd /root/lc2000/r8168-8.008.00" had to be entered without sudo.
>>
>> "make clean modules" required sudo and gave result as follows:
>>
>> make -C src/ clean
>> make[1]: Entering directory `/root/lc2000/r8168-8.008.00/src'
>> rm -rf *.o *.ko *~core* .dep* .*.d .*.cmd *.mod.c *.a  
>> *.s .*.flags .tmp_version
>> s Module.symvers Modules.symvers *.order
>> make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/lc2000/r8168-8.008.00/src'
>> make -C src/ modules
>> make[1]: Entering directory `/root/lc2000/r8168-8.008.00/src'
>> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.24-23-generic/build SUBDIRS=/src modules
>> make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-23-generic'
>> scripts/Makefile.build:41: src/Makefile: No such file or directory
>> make[3]: *** No rule to make target `src/Makefile'.  Stop.
>> make[2]: *** [_module_/src] Error 2
>> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-23-generic'
>> make[1]: *** [modules] Error 2
>> make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/lc2000/r8168-8.008.00/src'
>> make *** [modules] Error 2
>>
>>
>>
>> Alan Pope wrote:
>>     
>>> On 05/03/2009, Sean Miller <sean at seanmiller.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> I really think you're wasting your time, Rowan, dealing with them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Harsh.
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> I am convinced that if you let Ubuntu simply install itself you'll
>>>> have all your issues fixed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> I'd be willing to bet that's not the case. Look at it from LC point  
>>> of
>>> view. They want to ship a laptop running Ubuntu but they _know_ the
>>> driver that ships with Ubuntu is "broken" or "sub-optimal" so they go
>>> to the effort of getting the source and building a decent driver into
>>> their build of Ubuntu.
>>>
>>> They clearly have made some effort making a recovery CD which can
>>> revert everything back to factory default which says to me they are
>>> far from clueless.
>>>
>>> The fact is that they have a luckless and clueless (his words) user
>>> who doesn't understand how these things fit together. It's not easy
>>> supporting someone who has only just started out on this journey, and
>>> I think we should pay LC some respect for trying.
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> It is one of the things we've been taught to do, phone or e-mail the
>>>> supplier in the first instance, but when it comes to Linux I have
>>>> never felt it to be the right move.  If the machine is not "mature"
>>>> (ie. filled with applications, files and whatever) it's often far
>>>> better to simply wipe it and start again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> You're not Rowan though. You have orders of magnitude more skill and
>>> experience in use of Linux than he appears to. If he goes for a
>>> vanilla install of Ubuntu it's entirely likely that he'll end up with
>>> some level of brokenness somewhere and no support from LC.
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> What do others think?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> I think we have provided immense amounts of information detailing
>>> exactly the commands that Rowan needs to recompile and reinstall his
>>> driver. Either he knuckles down and tries it, or he takes his laptop
>>> to a local Linux User Group (or even a remote one :) ) and gets
>>> someone to look at it with/for him.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Al.
>>>
>>>
>>>       
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