[ubuntu-uk] No IE in Windows 7

Sean Miller sean at seanmiller.net
Fri Jun 12 14:03:31 BST 2009


I hadn't thought of the "won't have a browser with which to download a
browser" aspect.

If they were sensible and used Ubuntu, of course, they wouldn't need a
browser to download a browser would they!

Sean

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Rob Beard<rob at esdelle.co.uk> wrote:
> Matthew Wild wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 1:28 PM, Rob Beard<rob at esdelle.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Alan Lord (News) wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/06/09 12:20, Alan Pope wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 2009/6/12 Sean Miller<sean at seanmiller.net>:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> "European buyers of Windows 7 will have to download and install a web
>>>>>> browser for themselves. Bowing to European competition rules,
>>>>>> Microsoft Windows 7 will ship without Internet Explorer *snip"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8096701.stm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That could be quite a turning point in the browser wars.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> As far as I understand it, the vast majority of people obtain windows
>>>>> as a pre-installation on a new computer. Most don't install it
>>>>> themselves (although they may re-install it when it goes sour some
>>>>> time later). From what I've read OEMs will be able to select the
>>>>> browser on behalf of the user and pre-install it for them
>>>>>
>>>>> Net result, users get a machine with IE8 pre-installed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Al.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> That seems to be what I have read too.
>>>>
>>>> Of course an OS with no browser would make it very hard for a nontechy
>>>> user to actually go and get one anyway.
>>>>
>>>> Open a command window,
>>>> Use FTP?
>>>>
>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Are Microsoft still going to offer the regular versions of Windows too?
>>> I can't say I've seen Windows XP N or Vista N (the versions without
>>> Windows Media Player) available anywhere (well, I think I've seen it
>>> once).  I somehow doubt that it's going to be widely available somehow,
>>> I'm sure Microsoft are just doing it to say that it is out there if OEM
>>> choose to use it (and no doubt put the blame on the OEM's for being mean
>>> and buying the versions with IE8 bundled in).
>>>
>>>
>>
>> "Unlike the N versions, which proved to be very unsuccessful—as
>> Europeans simply purchased the full retail versions and OEMs refused
>> to include them on their systems—Microsoft is not planning to offer a
>> version of Windows 7 in Europe that includes IE8."
>>
>> also:
>>
>> "Microsoft notes that the decision affects both OEM and Retail
>> versions of Windows 7 products. While OEMs will have access to a free
>> "IE8 pack" that allows them to add the browser back in, consumers who
>> purchase retail copies will not have a browser that they can use to
>> download a browser. Therefore, Microsoft will offer IE8 via CD, FTP,
>> and retail channels. It looks like Mozilla, Opera, Google, and Apple
>> will have to do the same if they want European Windows 7 adopters to
>> have access to their browsers. "
>>
>> - http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/06/windows-7-to-be-shipped-in-europe-sans-internet-explorer.ars
>>
>> (article is worth a read)
>>
>>
> Interesting, I wonder then if Microsoft will clamp down on gray imports
> of Windows 7 from other regions (like they do at the moment with
> software imported from the US).
>
> Rob
>
>
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