[ubuntu-uk] First generation iTouch in 9.04?

James Milligan lake54 at lake54.com
Tue Aug 11 20:11:50 BST 2009 

Yeah it's a shame that they didn't make it 'more' compatible with Linux 
(I say more, but it technically isn't, but that's for another day ;-P)

Also, nice portraits on your website ;-)

I haven't run it in WINE, but I'm not sure it would work anyway:

http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=16848 
<http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=16848>

What does not work
sync ipod touch
So you might want to stick to a VM for now, enabling USB passthrough. 
Remember to get the download from the website rather than through 
apt-get, so you might want to do this before you get to the computer (as 
you said that there was no internet, IIRC - it might have been on one of 
the forum threads I was reading though).

In terms of the VM, it generally works best if you set up a USB device 
filter (I've forgotten what the exact name is - something that relates 
to them 'all'), and plug the device in /after/ Windows has started. It 
should automatically pick it up then. I've found that if it's already 
plugged in, then it doesn't always 'connect' properly (at least with my 
printer anyway).

Also, as a quick remedy if it doesn't show, it sometimes isn't 
automatically 'passed through' - just click Devices -> USB Devices, then 
check the device (should be called Apple iPod xxxx)

I guess if he's having issues once it's all set up, he could email the 
list or me, probably the list though, as I'm not experienced on Linux as 
you guys, just the VM running side of it all.

Just seen Dave's email come through as well, pretty much what I said at 
the beginning.

James


Ronnie Tucker wrote:
> Thanks for the info folks.
>
> I have an iPod Classic and use Amarok 1.4.x which is awesome. Shame 
> Amarok won't work with the iTouch.
>
> Ok, what about running iTunes with WINE, would that work? Or must it be 
> a VM?
>
> I don't mind setting all these things up for the guy, but if just one 
> thing happens, out of the ordinary, I won't be there to fix it, he'll be 
> completely baffled, and I'm not too versed on VM's/iTunes myself to be 
> the call centre guy  :D
>
>
>
> James Milligan wrote:
>   
>> Yeah the only blog posts I can see myself are from 2007:
>>
>> http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/08/10-alternatives-to-itunes-for-managing-your-ipod/
>> http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/03/how-to-manage-your-ipod-using-rhythmbox-in-ubuntu/
>> http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/04/how-to-use-amarok-to-manage-your-ipod-in-ubuntu/
>>
>> Also, on the Ubuntu Forums, there was this thread, but again ended in 
>> 2008, a while ago:
>>
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=654042
>>
>> Short answer: pretty much zero support for iPod Touches/iPhones.
>>
>> Good luck ;-)
>>
>> James
>>
>> David Stansby wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Sorry, I'm afraid not. The iPod touch firmware is encrypted in such a  
>>> way that it is very hard to get into it in the first place. I'm not  
>>> aware of any way of getting any library but iTunes to work. If  
>>> anything did work, it would have to be through windows (and I'd be  
>>> delighted to hear about such methods myself)
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> David
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>
>>> On 11 Aug 2009, at 18:38, Ronnie Tucker <ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Thanks for the replies David and James. Things look hopeful then...
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible to upload mp3's to the iTouch without iTunes  
>>>> (RhythmBox?
>>>> Since it comes with Ubuntu) as my colleague readily admits that iTunes
>>>> is 'rubbish' and 'hate[s] it with a passion'.  :D
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> James Milligan wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> Yeah I have an iPhone 3G and my Dad has an iPod Touch (I think 2nd  
>>>>> gen).
>>>>> On 9.04, we have a VM of Windows XP, the only difficulties arise when
>>>>> updating the firmware.
>>>>>
>>>>> I found when I updated to 3.0.1 that when it goes into Recovery Mode,
>>>>> and it's different 'device', VirtualBox (of course others exist)  
>>>>> didn't
>>>>> automatically pass it through.
>>>>>
>>>>> Apart from that, it's fine :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, and of course, it should work for your colleague - I'm an Ubuntu
>>>>> noob, so as long as he can press 'Devices, USB Devices, Device  
>>>>> Name' on
>>>>> the VB VM menu, that's the extent at which he needs to be involved,
>>>>> possibly.
>>>>>
>>>>> James
>>>>>
>>>>> David Stansby wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>>>> I myself have a second gen iPod touch, and I believe that you  
>>>>>> can't do
>>>>>> much natively in ubuntu without delving deep into ssh (which isn't
>>>>>> ideal for anyone) What I've had to do is set up a virtual machine  
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> windows in it, and sync my iPod touch through iTunes in windows.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can find out more about virtualisation on the ubuntu wiki, but  
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> my experience the process isn't too complicated and works fine for  
>>>>>> me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> David
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPod
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11 Aug 2009, at 16:41, Ronnie Tucker <ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         
>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a work colleague who's fed up with Windows on his laptop  
>>>>>>> (not
>>>>>>> sure of the make/model I'm afriad) and is more than willing to give
>>>>>>> Ubuntu a shot. But... he has a first generation iTouch (not
>>>>>>> jailbroken,
>>>>>>> (jailbreaked?)) which he (obviously) wants to continue using.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does Ubuntu 9.04 support the iTouch (first gen)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He's not too computer literate so it'd have to be relatively easy  
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> him to set up. I could set it up for him initially but as long as  
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> process doesn't require internet access (how do people live without
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Internet?).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any help is much appreciated. Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Ronnie Tucker
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk
>>>>>>> www.RonnieTucker.co.uk
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fb: facebook.com/profile.php?id=585438496
>>>>>>> TWITTER: twitter.com/ronnietucker
>>>>>>> MSN: ronnietucker at hotmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Registered Linux User # 456627
>>>>>>> Registered Ubuntu User # 18227
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
>>>>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>           
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>>>>>>           
>>>>>>             
>>>>>       
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>> -- 
>>>> Ronnie Tucker
>>>>
>>>> ronnie at ronnietucker.co.uk
>>>> www.RonnieTucker.co.uk
>>>>
>>>> Fb: facebook.com/profile.php?id=585438496
>>>> TWITTER: twitter.com/ronnietucker
>>>> MSN: ronnietucker at hotmail.com
>>>>
>>>> Registered Linux User # 456627
>>>> Registered Ubuntu User # 18227
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
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