[ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Intrepid 8.10 Kubuntu - disaster

Paul Sutton zleap at zleap.net
Sat Nov 8 17:55:46 GMT 2008


gav wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 12:41:08PM +0000, Bruce Beardall wrote:
>   
>> I think you raise some important concerns, Alan. As a Gnome user, I can't
>> really say I've had much recent experience beyond a cursory glance at KDE 4
>> but I think this leads to an interesting question:
>>
>> If we're to advocate Linux [and as far as this list is concerned, Ubuntu]
>> should we be concentrating our advocacy on the LTS release? It's all too
>> easy for anyone on this list to get carried away with the latest and
>> greatest but the vast majority of those we're trying to introduce Linux to
>> are used to the years between each Windows release. Should we be
>> concentrating on introducing them to a release which is intended to be
>> around for a number of years and expected to have a certain level of
>> stability and accessibility?
>>     
>
>
> As the last couple of releases have had a bumpy start I've been putting LTS
> versions, currently 8.04.1 Ubuntu on new installs for people recently.
>
> I think I'll stick with the 8.04.1 Ubuntu disc for a while yet.
>
> This does ask the question of why the latest releases have had a bumpy start,
> is the new features cut off coming too late?  is it not being tested on a wide
> enough variety of hardware?  Or is it something else?
>
> Everything seems to be patched quite quickly and a .1 release seems to follow
> shortly that solves most of the release day problems.
>
> Should we be advising people to wait a week, or even a month before upgrading
> to a new version of Ubuntu?
>
>   

I thought this was a matter of course for most operating systems,  wait 
a while,  see if there any major issues then upgrade, of course if 
everyone did that we would not identify issues, perhaps also as 
advocates we should install out selves and be able to fix issues before 
giving copies away to users to just want it to work and not worry about 
fixing stuff that much.

its a difficult one to call but it looks far better on us if we are told 
by a user of a problem and we know how to fix it quickly,  rathar than 
having to explain why a simple thing like disc eject is not working 
properly.

perhaps once a few issues are fixed the cd image (iso file) should be 
updated with these fixes, so 8.10.1 8.10.2 etc,  each month,  until 9.04 
is released, this would sound more logical, as that way it would not 
just be fixes but updates too,  and once installed it won't be taking as 
long to download the updates to fix issues,  the software cd will never 
then be more than 1 or 2 months out of date, where as 8.10 in march will 
be about 5 months out of date and still carry know issues from when it 
was pressed.

I would also guess that 8.10.5/6 would have certain bits in there that 
will make any transition to 9.04 much easier,. 

just my thoughts really.  I will send off for some 8.10 cd.

Paul



Paul





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