[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Profile

Darren Mansell darren at vcoc.co.uk
Mon Oct 29 21:53:15 GMT 2007


Renjith Nair wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> You are not the only one with wireless issues on Ubuntu. I have helped 
> several people to get their wireless working on Ubuntu.. After several 
> hours of tweaking when it finally start working, they make a statement 
> that ' it is so easy to do this stuff in windows' .  Linux users may 
> not necessarily agree with this statement, but for an average person 
> this is so true.
>
> Wireless networking is an issue which needs some sorting out from main 
> developers in ubuntu. I would say that they have done quite well in 
> supporting some of the wireless cards, but still there are some gaps 
> to be filled in . Some of the USB wireless cards especially with 
> Ralink chipsets are having some problems in Ubuntu. You may need third 
> party drivers ( for e.g serialmonkey drivers) to get it running. Even 
> after that, you may experience some problems regarding the ehci_hcd 
> support (module for USB 2.0) .  This hasn't been sorted out yet and 
> this is an area we need to focus on.
>
> If we can't support the common man, ubuntu will not succeed. Before 
> thinking a lot about advertisements (TV, BBC, Newspaper) we need to 
> sort out these basic issues or atleast make the main developers/ 
> bug-solvers to look into this matter. If you look into the forums, you 
> can see that these are ongoing problems for the past releases too and 
> it was never solved completely, even though there has been some 
> progress. 
>
> To have said this, we need to also understand that Ubuntu cannot 
> support all wireless cards available in the market as it is a 
> herculian task. But atleast we make sure that the commonly available 
> cards like Belkin, Linksys, Netgear, edimax etc are supported. We 
> can't just blame the manufacturers for not making the linux drivers 
> and leave issues like that. We need solutions for this problem.  All 
> persons won't buy boxes from Tesco and so it is necessary that we have 
> to support the commonly available wireless cards, even if the 
> manufacturer is not supporting Linux. Difficult task to achieve .. but 
> that is the way forward.  If the number of linux users  increase, the 
> manufacturers will be forced to use their resources to make them 
> compatible with linux.
>
> I agree to this statement from davis "It does not matter how good the 
> distro is, without the internet, email and printing, the operating 
> system has little  value"
>
> Regards,
> renjith
>
> On 10/29/07, *davisjo* <davisjo at wanadoo.fr 
> <mailto:davisjo at wanadoo.fr>> wrote:
>
>     I like Ubuntu, I think it is the best distro and the highest quality.
>      
>     I would also like to see the profile of Ubuntu raised in the
>     market place but feel there are some issues in Ubuntu that need
>     addressing.
>      
>     I have attended night school to learn Ubuntu basics but still
>     cannot get my wireless card to work or print something of any
>     value.  Mandriva has been the easiest to configure with a wireless
>     card.
>      
>     Windows, whether we like it or not is simple. I have read all the
>     info in the Wiki about connecting wirelss cards etc but to no
>     avail. I am doing something wrong but in the absence of friends
>     etc, how do I resolve this problem ?
>      
>     I would prefer Ubuntu to resolve the problems of connectivety even
>     if that means a small charge for each distro to cover the cost of
>     commercial software.Or maybe reduced charge telephone support for
>     home users.
>      
>     It does not matter how good the distro is, without the internet,
>     email and printing, the operating system has little  value. 
>
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>
>
Currently the only wireless chipset that is a problem is the Broadcom 
bcm43xx . The bcm43xx driver is getting better all the time and 
ndiswrapper helps. But its all ok anyway because everything that needs 
wifi is going smaller and more Intel.



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