[ubuntu-uk] Bloatware was memory lane

Ian Pascoe softy.lofty.ilp at btinternet.com
Mon Nov 12 19:25:48 GMT 2007

Hi Norman

Yes, when I think back to my Beeb days and the Inter suite of office
applications on clever 64k ROMs, against today's Office applications - Open
Office org is 108Mb for a Windows installation, 135Mb for Linux, I do really
wonder what's happened.

Some of the bloat is down to increased feature sets, and better more
efficient (?) ways of doing things and of course wysiwyg.

However, I wonder how much bloat would disappear if developers had to go
back to programming in machine language and not through a nice interpreted
language like C, Python, Java etc


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[mailto:ubuntu-uk-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com]On Behalf Of norman
Sent: 12 November 2007 18:51
To: ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane,was: Please can someone look at
this and try to help

What a collection of wonderful memories. One of the many things I have
puzzled over is the way the size of software has increased over the
years. For example, I used to use Wordstar 1.8 which did all the basic
things one needed to produce documents very similar to the present day
office programmes. Yet, if my memory is correct, the application
excluding, the spellchecker, occupied about 14KB of space on the 5.25in
floppie. I recall an article published in PCW in 1993, I think, which
described the all singing all dancing Wordstar on the Osborne
transportable computer. This article described how to change four of the
print commands which were redundant when using  a dot matrix printer to
commands of use. The procedure involved delving into the code using a
debugger, making the changes to the code and then saving back to the
floppie. The formula for the saving involved a satement of the size of
the space to be reserved and that was 14 KB.

I had a theory that as RAM became cheaper and cheaper programmers became
lazier and lazier and did not need to strive to be economical with their


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