[ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk-marketing

[Robin Menneer]

On 10/07/07, alan c <aeclist at candt.waitrose.com> wrote:
> Alan Pope wrote:
> > Hi Alan,
> >
> > On Mon, 2007-07-09 at 23:02 +0100, alan c wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Why not contribute to the existing marketing team? Why "fork"?
> >>
> >> The existing marketing team is not UK specific. The UK media,
> >> temperament, retail environment etc are all specific to uk.
> >>
> >
> > Sure, but that doesn't mean you can't discuss uk based issues on
> > the main marketing list. You could for example just put [UK] in the
> >  subject line of messages to the main marketing list - which to be
> >  fair isn't exactly a busy list anyway. Forking to a separate list
> >  would mean that people from other regions would miss out on the
> > great work you guys do. You would also miss out on suggestions from
> >  others.
>
> Unfortunately the 'inappropriate' response I had from usa recently was
> a distraction, and counterproductive. I do not believe that the sort
> of uk specific items that are arising here now for example would be
> appropriate for the global marketing list. And I note they have not
> occurred on that list. I would not be interested in who contacts whom
> in usa or netherlands about someone there who owns a TUX suit, and non
> uk readers would find uk details a distraction.
>
> It is good to know what the serbian team have done, but to get it to
> happen in UK would need arrangements of a different nature, some quite
> detailed. I do not think such things go well on a global list. The
> fact that we see a slow list there signals that there is a need for more
> local activity. Nearly -all- my activity is local, and is mostly not
> appropriate in a global list. UK school regulations for example? Who
> to contact at W H Smith head office re a stand when Ubuntu is on a
> magazine cover? Local council structures in england?
>
> Sometime ago I was on a berkshire radio program about computers (for
> age concern) on a paul daniels show (non-magic, he is a disk jockey too).
> It seems he has quite an interest in computers and I have toyed with
> the idea of finding out if he used open source, Ubuntu, etc. Again
> this is uk marketing, not global. I would not even have mentioned it
> in the global list, people's agendas are so diverse. Even the bumper
> stickers are too big for our car bumper and our motorhome, but
> probably ok for usa vehicles though.
>
> Putting uk in each subject in this uk list might work to some extent,
> but it would be
> better to be a uk marketing specific list.
>
> I have been pointing newcomers to the forums and this list for
> support. It is not going to sit well to find oneself in the midst of
> specialist marketing chatter when you are too nervous hardly to ask a
> question is it?
>
Yes, in a funny sort of way I feel that I am part of a chattering
community which I do not get from the forums.  Yes it is distracting
and often daunting, but I still find myself reading the list, and not
the forums, secure in the knowledge that the list will answer me
personally when I have a query.  Robin

> I like the energy of the marketeers who are appearing. There is a
> reason why that has not happened (for uk) on the global list. A
> specialist list allows enthusiasm to develop and focus. Energy builds
> when people have things in common, and you can see what
> is in common on the global list.
>
> There really are uk specific marketing needs.
> --
> alan cocks
> Kubuntu user#10391
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