[ubuntu-uk] ubuntu sophisticated

London School of Puppetry lspinfo at gmail.com
Fri Jan 5 14:12:01 GMT 2007


Robin
Thanks I will try-Can I ask someone something else- why does open Office
crash when I try to paste something out of it into an email? Sorry I am so
new to this and I appreciate all you with so much practical knowledge.
Caroline

On 05/01/07, Robin Menneer <robinmenneer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Caroline
> I assume that you are at the same level of simplicity and find that the
> help facility is like the curate's egg, good in parts.  You type your
> message in open office then save as, under file type, click on windows XP
> which gives you a .doc suffix.  Microsoft should understand this.
> Robin
> On 1/5/07, London School of Puppetry <lspinfo at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Robin, I am a recent convert? to Ubuntu- which I find great- and I am
> > useless at this klind of thing. the Help stuff is clear- ish - except for
> > some terms are hard to understand- But the biggest problem I have is sending
> > files to colleagues who use Microsoft- and they say they can't open
> > them.Caroline
> >
> > On 05/01/07, Robin Menneer < robinmenneer at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Toby
> > > If Ubuntu is to be as successful as has been mooted, the package needs
> > > to be lubriciously simple so that complete beginners with nil knowledge can
> > > take advantage of the secondhand machines which are said to abound.  For
> > > instance I would advocate a starting screen, after loading, of a
> > > typewriter-only facility with the keyboard control &c keys suitably locked
> > > sofly,  So the newboy can, unless he uses the one menu which gets him out of
> > > it, can only use the machine as a typewriter with save, print and new
> > > facilities.  Then when he has mastered typing (or sooner) he can elect to
> > > move another stage towards open office etc etc.  Many of the people coming
> > > into computing are those who have either been bypassed or actively rejected
> > > computing and are possibly candidates for open-source coupled with cheap
> > > secondhand machine, but a simple step-by-step initiation is needed.  What is
> > > simple to you is impossible to most of them.  I envisage a pensioner
> > > attending a charity meeting being given a machine and being told just to
> > > take it away and use it.  Comparing its procedures with windows is not
> > > useful.  Dumbing down ridiculously is what's needed to get ubuntu being
> > > favoured by the masses.
> > > Robin
> > >
> > > On 1/5/07, Toby Smithe <toby.smithe at gmail.com > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 2007-01-04 at 12:29 +0000, Robin Menneer wrote:
> > > > > Alan
> > > > > Yes - cash book, address book &c.  I didn't have a cd and had
> > > > never
> > > > > made one, nor had the facilities.  I didn't need a cd for suse but
> > > > I
> > > > > do not know what Novell have done with it since they took it over.
> > > > > You fall into the trap of comparing installing ubuntu with windows
> > > > > instead of the real world whch does exist outside windows.  Yes it
> > > >
> > > > > should get better if it's going to be much more widely used.  I
> > > > want a
> > > > > package that I can click on on the web, chose the thicky
> > > > (beginner's)
> > > > > version and go away and leave it for half an hour, returning to
> > > > find
> > > > > the opening page offering help.  Other more expert versions I
> > > > would
> > > > > possibly like to delve into later but would be happy ot go again
> > > > to
> > > > > the web so as to get the latest version.
> > > > > Robin
> > > >
> > > > Hmm... I'm not quite certain what this means. I'm also unsure as to
> > > > what
> > > > you find sophisticated. It always all seemed perfectly clear to me.
> > > > Could you elaborate some more, please?
> > > >
> > > > > On 1/4/07, alan c < aeclist at candt.waitrose.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Robin Menneer wrote:
> > > > > > > Alan
> > > > > > > Cornwall.  You can see some of my interests on
> > > > www.cornishhedges.com.
> > > > > > > (comments welcome).   Yes, I agree about different needs - all
> > > > one
> > > > > > > needs is a simple menu offering switchable facilities by
> > > > function
> > > > > > > rather than by name
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Email, Word Processing, Internet Browse,  (more?)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Protection should be inbuilt with user status.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I believe this is already there.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Surely in the 21st century we do not need an install person
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You said you got someone else to install for you. Installs are
> > > > about
> > > > > > as easy as I could imagine now. Insert cd, say yes take over
> > > > hard
> > > > > > drive, ok, english ok, then have a few cups of tea. Knowing that
> > > > > > nobody in their right mind installs windows themselves (quite
> > > > > > difficult), I think ubuntu does pretty well and will probably
> > > > get
> > > > > > better too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >  Aged
> > > > > > > late-departed mother in laws should not have to be daunted by
> > > > install
> > > > > > > problems.  I gather one Ubuntu difficulty was with the display
> > > > which
> > > > > > > turned out to be merely a deficit in programming.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The only display problem I had in many various installs was with
> > > > a
> > > > > > dell laptop inspiron 1100 - this model was produced with a
> > > > display and
> > > > > > bios communication problem. It was easier to install linux
> > > > (ubuntu
> > > > > > etc) than XP even though I was using the original Dell CDs!
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > alan cocks
> > > > > > Kubuntu user#10391
> > > > > >
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