[ubuntu-uk] NVU

[TheVeech]

On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 12:04 +0100, Tony Arnold wrote:
> 
> TheVeech wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 11:48 +0100, Tony Arnold wrote:
> >> Dave Walker wrote:
> >>> On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 08:22 +0100, Tony Arnold wrote:
> >>>> baz wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> <SNIP>
> >>>> 
> >>>> Any idea why NVU is not in the repositories for Feisty?
> >>>> 
> >>>> <SNIP>
> >>> It's been dropped from the repositories as it is "Umaintained by 
> >>> upstream."[1]
> >>> 
> >>> It hasn't been updated since 28-06-2005 however there is an
> >>> unofficial bug-fix release called KompoZer[2], but that hasn't
> >>> been updated since 2006-07-26.
> >>> 
> >>> [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=393065 [2]
> >>> http://kompozer.net/
> >> That's a shame, I liked NVU! I'll have to look for a different html
> >>  editor now. Everyone seems to rave about Bluefish, but it's not
> >> WYSIWYG so far as I can tell.
> > 
> > Screem (http://www.screem.org/) is an excellent editor.  You don't 
> > really need WYSIWYG, since it's easy to check things in your browser.
> >  In fact Screem's that good that I don't know why more people don't 
> > promote it.  Bluefish is okay, but I'd choose Screem every time - 
> > there's nothing to stop you using/trying both.
> 
> That appears not to have been touched since 2nd November 2005, at least
> according to its project page on sourceforge.
> 
> What has always irritated me in some editors is the difficulty of
> removing or changing existing tags, and sometimes adding an opening and
> closing tag around an existing piece of text. Maybe I've just never
> figured it out, but this was dead easy in NVU.
> 
> I'll keep playing!

Quality isn't inevitably tied to the frequency of release dates!
Bluefish appears to have been marketed better (they've got a little
icon, anyway), but Screem's more efficient, according to its site.  I
tend to use both Bluefish and Screem, but default to the latter because
I prefer the working environment.  They're both good programs, though,
so it pretty much boils down to horses for courses.

Whatever editor you use, you'll come to depend upon some of its
features.  For any that you find lacking in a new app, you'll just work
around them easily enough I'm sure.  I never tried NVU because I was
under the impression that it was aping Dreamweaver and I was never that
keen on WYSIWYG because you tend to lose some control over your work.
It's a good way to learn at first, though.

Using these editors (Screem/Bluefish), you'll soon get the hang of them,
and you should improve your coding, too.  Be adventurous!  These editors
are a lot easier and more enjoyable to use than they seem at first.

There are other alternatives (some quite twinky), but Bluefish and
Screem are good, solid apps that do the job.  If you do try both (and
I'd recommend this), use them for a while and post your impressions.