[ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 19, Issue 36
William Topping
will.topping at gmail.com
Thu Nov 9 20:06:42 GMT 2006
FYI - All NTL equipment comes with Ethernet connectivity and most with USB
also.
On 09/11/06, ubuntu-uk-request at lists.ubuntu.com <
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> 1. Re: NTL Cable installation (David Morley)
> 2. Re: NTL Cable installation (Eamonn Sullivan)
> 3. Re: NTL Cable installation (Eamonn Sullivan)
> 4. Re: NTL Cable installation (tim matthews)
> 5. un subscribe (richard merrix)
> 6. Re: un subscribe (tim matthews)
> 7. Re: NTL Cable installation (Dominic Forrest)
> 8. Guardian letter published re more open source information
> :-) (alan c)
> 9. Re: Guardian letter published re more open source
> information :-) (Nik Butler)
> 10. Re: Guardian letter published re more open source
> information :-) (Greg Dash)
> 11. Re: New screencast on installing updates (alan c)
> 12. Re: New screencast on installing updates (alan c)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 16:39:30 +0000
> From: "David Morley" <davmor2 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] NTL Cable installation
> To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On 09/11/06, Gary Kearley <gary at kearley.net> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am moving very soon, into an area which has NTL Cable, now I've never
> > had Cable before and need to know what I am dealing with.
> >
> Cable is pretty good always on internet. Everything should just work
> if not go into System/Admin/Network and enable it. Ntl have an on off
> track record apparently but I can't comment as I'm on telewest.
>
>
> --
> Seek That Thy Might Know
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 16:41:15 +0000
> From: "Eamonn Sullivan" <eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] NTL Cable installation
> To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On 11/9/06, Gary Kearley <gary at kearley.net> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am moving very soon, into an area which has NTL Cable, now I've never
> > had Cable before and need to know what I am dealing with.
>
> I use Blueyonder, in the London area, which is part of Telewest (now
> owned also by NTL). I have not had any problems.
>
> You won't be able to reuse your current DSL modem. It'll be a cable
> modem. It shouldn't matter at all. As long as what comes out the
> *other* end is an ethernet cable, you just plug in and go.
>
> If you get something that plugs into your USB port and not your
> network card, that can be a little more troublesome. I have not had to
> do this, and will let someone else chime in. I bet, however, that you
> can tell NTL that your PC has a network card and they'll give you the
> right equipment.
>
> -Eamonn
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 16:44:46 +0000
> From: "Eamonn Sullivan" <eamonn.sullivan at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] NTL Cable installation
> To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On 11/9/06, David Morley <davmor2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 09/11/06, Gary Kearley <gary at kearley.net> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am moving very soon, into an area which has NTL Cable, now I've
> never
> > > had Cable before and need to know what I am dealing with.
> > >
> > Cable is pretty good always on internet. Everything should just work
> > if not go into System/Admin/Network and enable it. Ntl have an on off
> > track record apparently but I can't comment as I'm on telewest.
>
> Telewest and NTL merged in 2004, if I remember correctly. It's all
> part of the telecom industry's plan to simply our lives by reducing
> choice... :-)
>
> -Eamonn
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:51:02 +0000
> From: tim matthews <tim at tui.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] NTL Cable installation
> To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <45535C76.8000100 at tui.co.uk>
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> don't cable connections in the UK just use dhcp?
>
> with homechoice, we used dhcp. but we had to ditch homechoice since the
> bandwidth was useless.
>
> makes life much easier than using pppoa.
>
> tim
>
> Gary Kearley wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am moving very soon, into an area which has NTL Cable, now I've never
> > had Cable before and need to know what I am dealing with.
> >
> > Would it be possible for someone who has NTL cable to describe, with
> > pictures if at all possible, the install and kit.
> >
> > IE I'm going to order the 3 for ?30 offer they have, so with the one
> > cable entering the building, what connections will NTL supply (ie for
> > telly and phone and Internet, and what do I need to buy to have a
> > broadband wifi router with Ethernet switch?
> >
> > Is there anyway to use my current dsl router? (bt voyager 2100) (I doubt
> > this)
> >
> > sorry for the basic and silly question, but I just don't know.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 17:36:46 +0000
> From: richard merrix <merrix.motf at hotmail.co.uk>
> Subject: [ubuntu-uk] un subscribe
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> hi, i dont wanna do this n e more as i only want emails from my friends
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> Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 17:43:39 +0000
> From: tim matthews <tim at tui.co.uk>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 18:28:24 +0000
> From: Dominic Forrest <dominic.forrest at ntlworld.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] NTL Cable installation
> To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <45537348.609 at ntlworld.com>
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>
> Hi,
> I should declare an interest here as I work for ntl:Telewest. The
> cable installation is fairly straightforward:
>
> A Coaxial cable will be run to your house and "split" so that two
> seperate cables are run to:
> a) Your STB for the TV
> b) Your cable modem
> A seperate twisted pair cable is run in to provide a "standard"
> telephone connection
>
> The Cable modem has both Ethernet and USB ports - personally I always
> recommend people to use Ethernet. IP addresses are supplied by DHCP so
> all you need to do is plug it in and off you go!
>
> For WI-FI/Router you need a router whose upstream is Ethernet (to plug
> into the cable modem) - many are available from all the usual names.
>
>
> Dom
>
> Gary Kearley wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am moving very soon, into an area which has NTL Cable, now I've never
> > had Cable before and need to know what I am dealing with.
> >
> > Would it be possible for someone who has NTL cable to describe, with
> > pictures if at all possible, the install and kit.
> >
> > IE I'm going to order the 3 for ?30 offer they have, so with the one
> > cable entering the building, what connections will NTL supply (ie for
> > telly and phone and Internet, and what do I need to buy to have a
> > broadband wifi router with Ethernet switch?
> >
> > Is there anyway to use my current dsl router? (bt voyager 2100) (I doubt
> > this)
> >
> > sorry for the basic and silly question, but I just don't know.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 18:48:55 +0000
> From: alan c <aeclist at candt.waitrose.com>
> Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Guardian letter published re more open source
> information :-)
> To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <45537817.6010505 at candt.waitrose.com>
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>
> I am joyful to say that my letter to the Guardian Technology section
> asking for more about Open Source has been published! Today Open
> Source, tomorrow, Ubuntu.
>
> 9th Nov 2006
>
> http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/archives/2006/11/09/this_weeks_letters_in_full.html#more
> 'GOOGLE?S OPEN SOURCE MAN'
>
> The paper version is abridged, but reads well.
> :-)
> --
> alan cocks
> Linux registered user #360648
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:00:07 +0000
> From: Nik Butler <nik at butlershouse.co.uk>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Guardian letter published re more open source
> information :-)
> To: British Ubuntu Talk <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <45537AB7.3010907 at butlershouse.co.uk>
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> alan c wrote:
> > The paper version is abridged, but reads well.
> > :-)
> >
> Fabboooooo!
>
> Speaking as a times reader Id like to add that as a Goal to our plan.
> We should be contacting more of the press and the Beeb and telling them
> more about open source events and activities.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Nik
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 19:01:21 +0000
> From: "Greg Dash" <greg.dash1 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Guardian letter published re more open source
> information :-)
> To: "British Ubuntu Talk" <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID:
> <7edc14ef0611091101u38b826c4j396ade33a5223e3d at mail.gmail.com>
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>
> thats awesome that your letter got published, you make a good point, Open
> Source is't just a hobby thing anymore, nor was it 10 years ago, but hey,
> everyone has lag! :P
>
> On 09/11/06, alan c <aeclist at candt.waitrose.com> wrote:
> >
> > I am joyful to say that my letter to the Guardian Technology section
> > asking for more about Open Source has been published! Today Open
> > Source, tomorrow, Ubuntu.
> >
> > 9th Nov 2006
> >
> >
> http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/technology/archives/2006/11/09/this_weeks_letters_in_full.html#more
> > 'GOOGLE'S OPEN SOURCE MAN'
> >
> > The paper version is abridged, but reads well.
> > :-)
> > --
> > alan cocks
> > Linux registered user #360648
> >
> > --
> > ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com
> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk
> > https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/
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> Message: 11
> Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 19:59:05 +0000
> From: alan c <aeclist at candt.waitrose.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates
> To: nik at reducedhackers.com, British Ubuntu Talk
> <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> Nicholas Butler wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > In my mind I feel that we could do with something like a new member
> > information pack something which at first does not intimidate with a
> > plethora of things to know but also can serve as a jumping off point
> > from FAQs ( these vary in their usefulness ! ) to Wikis ( Which can
> > become very overwhelming ) and Pod/Screen casts.
>
> I would appreciate having the files available to burn onto a CD to
> offer at Computer fairs etc etc when also offering K/Ubuntu CDs.
>
> A how-to video/s such as these will jump start more than a newbies
> knowledge. It adds a very powerful credibility to what they may
> hopefully already have heard - it is not a distro from Mars, it is for
> human beings.
> --
> alan cocks
> Linux registered user #360648
>
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:04:37 +0000
> From: alan c <aeclist at candt.waitrose.com>
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] New screencast on installing updates
> To: Alan Pope <alan at popey.com>, British Ubuntu Talk
> <ubuntu-uk at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <455389D5.4020905 at candt.waitrose.com>
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> Alan Pope wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 12:37:25PM +0000, Jonathan Roberts wrote:
> >> Hey,
> >>
> >> I've just watched the screen cast and thought it was really good! Don't
> >> really think you need to make any changes to the splash screen,
> although
> >> with the idea of pretty as a feature being thrown around by Mark
> >> Shuttleworth and the like maybe it would be a nice extra (although I
> >> have zero artistic talent myself!).
> >>
> >
> > Ok, that's good to hear.
> >
> >> I know I've said this about the screencasts on this list before, but I
> >> really think any one making them should post them to
> >> http://ubuntuclips.org/ as well: otherwise I worry we'll be duplicating
> >> efforts. Just a thought.
> >>
> >
> > I have mixed feelings about this.
> >
> > Firstly ubuntuclips state that the videos submitted to them should *not*
> be full resolution
> > videos, but should be clips of part of the screen. Part of this is for
> readability and
> > partly for size of download. I am of the opinon that screencasts should
> (where possible)
> > show full screen video that allows the viewer to see the entire desktop.
> Clipping and
> > cropping chunks off means they don't see the full deal of what's going
> on, and the video
> > maker has to keep moving popup windows and dialogs around to get them in
> the viewing port.
> >
> > I also feel that there should be some consistency between the videos,
> that they should have
> > boilerplates at the start and end so that you know what video is what
> from the preview
> > dialog, and the video gets a branding.
>
> very much, yes, it is newbies who are looking, with windows shutters
> on the eyelids. When anxious they will try to follow exact
> instructions. I know, I used to either click yes to everything (note
> 1), or when push came to shove, try to be blindly exact.
>
> Note 1: Linux cured me of this habit......
> --
> alan cocks
> Linux registered user #360648
>
>
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