Max, have put in my comments marked with PH<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> The plan is great, but just one suggestion before we approach everyone why don't we put the site online, this way it will look that we are serious and know what we are doing.</div></blockquote><div><br>I agree that we should have a proper site in place.<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">I am talking about the community website, which advocates ubuntulogy (if i may use that expression).</div></blockquote><div><br>We need to have the focus on the site to be "Why Ubuntu makes sense to me" with different versions of "me" (gov, edu, biz, etc) as well as details on Ubuntulogy (I really like that term). <br><br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> So in my view the plan of action should be as follows:<br> <br> 1:Secure sponsored hosting 500MB  from <a href="http://ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">ubuntu.com</a> , i wonder if you could do this as you are the founder of the community.</div></blockquote><div><br>This is possible although they will only do this for approved locoteams which takes quite a bit of hard work to get going. However, I have plenty of space on my dreamhost account and could easily give you an account (it has joomla already) if you are keen to set it up. <br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">    1.1 create a local domain forwarder <a href="http://ubuntu.co.tz" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">ubuntu.co.tz</a> -> domain name given by <a href="http://ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">ubuntu.com</a> or something like that - I will arrange this upon your approval with Bill Sangiwa. </div></blockquote><div><br>Bill has been very helpful in the past so if you can arrange <a href="http://ubuntu.co.tz">ubuntu.co.tz</a> and <a href="http://ubuntu.or.tz">ubuntu.or.tz</a> through him (registration is free) to get us off the ground that would be a good starting point. You should point DNS to: <a href="http://ns1.dreamhost.com">ns1.dreamhost.com</a>, <a href="http://ns2.dreamhost.com">ns2.dreamhost.com</a><br><br>I already asked for <a href="http://ubuntu-tz.org">ubuntu-tz.org</a> to point to <a href="http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TanzanianTeam"> wiki.ubuntu.com/TanzanianTeam</a>, but will get that changed to our site.<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> 2: Jointly develop content and articles on ubuntology.</div></blockquote><div><br>Focus should be as per my comments above.<br> </div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> 3: -> proceed with the plan you outlined below. approach ISP's and BoL, various newspapers to post ads about the newly formed community. this way we will have some base and would be easier to approach the government people, too much bureaucracy in the govt, especially they will think we are trying to make some money out of this so naturally there will be resistance.</div></blockquote><div><br>Let's do this when we're up and running. <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> 4: Try to go do some sort of a launch once we have like 1000 members or so.</div></blockquote><div><br>Although 1000 members is great I think it'll be a while...<br><br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> I would gladly make a custom template and put the site together in Joomla, yes it has the pdf export function and we can put up integrated forum as well.</div></blockquote><div><br>Ok, as soon as the domains are registered, I'll create an admin id for you on the joomla installation. </div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Sorry i am in a rush right now, thats why such short writing.<br> <br> Do let me know what you think.</div></blockquote><div><br>I think it's great! ;-) <br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> regards Max.<br> <br> P.S I am based in Mbeya working for clinical research site which was founded by Tropical Institute of Muenchen. (<a href="http://www.mmrp.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">www.mmrp.org</a>)<br> <br> What about you?</div></blockquote><div><br><br>I work for a shipping agency, Nyota Tanzania Ltd, who are agents for Maersk Line and Safmarine Container Lines. <br><br>/peter<br></div><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Peter Hoeg wrote: <blockquote cite="http://midd4ac9db00712070605n7ba28366hfde00c9940ff97ba@mail.gmail.com" type="cite">Guys, I'm sorry about the rather late response.<br> <br> Max, <br> <br> Joomla or something similar would be a great idea. I want to document the Ubuntu-friendliness of the various ISPs in the country as I've been struggling with the BOL mobile solution lately and it would be brilliant with a place to collect this information. Especially since Joomla to my knowledge allows export of articles as PDF which means we could: <br> <br> 1) Contact the various ISPs for them to link to us (it would obviously be in their interest) and thereby push our agenda, and<br> 2) Get the ISPs to provide our documentation on their standard driver CDs to customers. <br> <br> The next area where we need to push would be the education and government sectors - they're always cash strapped and I'm sure we can arouse their interest.<br> <br> How many of you guys are located in Dar? Would make sense to meet up and agree on a way forward. <br> <br> I personally think Ubuntu has a great potential in TZ and I would like to use this as a way to contribute back to the community.<br> <br> /peter<br> <br> <div><span class="gmail_quote">On 17/10/2007, <b class="gmail_sendername"> Max E.K</b> <<a href="mailto:max@kimambo.co.tz" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">max@kimambo.co.tz</a>> wrote:</span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">Yes Peter been  to <span><br> <pre><a href="http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TanzanianTeam" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TanzanianTeam</a></pre> </span>We could stick with that, but the thought of sponsored hosting is very appealing too. If we can get the space then its super, sorry to say this but i am  a joomla fanatic so <br> <br> My idea was as follows.<br> <br> For the main site we should run Joomla but also we should have a wiki attached to it so that users can edit the pages where we need contribution and stuff like that.<br> <br> To tell you the truth i havent had much experience with wiki but i can toy around with it and will let you know how it goes. <br> What was your idea on this, what should be the way forward? do you have any plans, as for the content of the website and sorts of activities that we could conduct, I know  as you said on Tz homapage that we aim at doing the items mentioned below, but the point is do we have a really detailed plan in achieving those objectives. I would like to participate if you have one already laid down.<br> <br> " What we are planning on achieving: <ol type="1"> <li> <p>Creating a foundation for extensive use of Ubuntu in the public, private and home sectors </p> </li> <li> <p>Advocating and promoting the use of Free Software in <a title="WikiPedia" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tanzania" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"><img alt="[WikiPedia]" height="16" width="16"> Tanzania</a> with a special focus on Ubuntu </p> </li> <li> <p>Conduct workshops to expose Tanzanians to free software through hands-on sessions </p> </li> <li> <p>Distribute Ubuntu CDs and DVDs </p> </li> <li> <p>Coordinate and arrange translation of Ubuntu into Kiswahili </p> </li> </ol> <h3>"<br> </h3> with kind regards, <div><span><br> <br> Max.<br> <br> Peter Hoeg wrote: <blockquote cite="http://midd4ac9db00710161211r46c552a8wef68331b0901001c@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <pre>Max, I think it's a great idea to get a site going to coordinate the activities and attract people. There is however one already on <a href="http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TanzanianTeam" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TanzanianTeam</a> that I set up some time ago and I think we might as well just use that until further. Or do you have other plans for content we cannot host on the wiki? I don't know if you have read the following articles, but they might be useful later: <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto</a> <a style="" href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoHosting" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoHosting</a> <a href="http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3544813" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=3544813</a> Have you gents created userpages on <a href="http://wiki.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">wiki.ubuntu.com</a>? /peter On 16/10/2007, Max E.K <a href="mailto:max@kimambo.co.tz" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> <max@kimambo.co.tz></a> wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite"> <pre> Hello Sebastian and Peter, I joined the list long time ago, it was too quiet. Until now, sorry for not introducing myself. I am also a regular user of Ubuntu since version 5.04. I am located in Mbeya working in Medical research and trying to push them to use OSS for data collection and entry in our clinical trial. will keep you updated on my progress. We should put up a website i am sure we can pull in some more users, i have a web server so just give me a go ahead and we can register a domain and i will host it, no worries, Joomla is my preffered CMS. Hope to hear from you both soon. regards Max. Peter Hoeg wrote: Sebastian, you are most welcome - the more the better. And so far it is only you and I. What does the current situation look like in the education sector in TZ with regards to use of Open Source software in general and Ubuntu in particular? Best regards, Peter On 16/10/2007, sebastian Liduke <a href="mailto:sebastianjr1@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"><sebastianjr1@gmail.com></a> wrote: Hello Peter I am a Tanzanian Ubuntu User,I have found in ubuntu community you are the leader of ubuntu community in tanzania I would like to join the community. I am an IT Student at the Institute of finance management Dar-es-salaam. hope to hear from u soon. -- Ubuntu-tz mailing list <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-tz@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">Ubuntu-tz@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-tz" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-tz</a> </pre> </blockquote> <pre> </pre> </blockquote> <br> </span></div> </div> <br> --<br> Ubuntu-tz mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-tz@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">Ubuntu-tz@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-tz" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-tz</a><br> <br> </blockquote> </div> <br> <br clear="all"> <br> -- <br> /peter </blockquote> </div> </blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>/peter