<div dir="auto">Dear gunnar<div dir="auto">We did fix most underscore problems, where to see the update if it's fixed or not? Downloaded lastest 28-3 but not fixed yet.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best Regards </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 28, 2020, 9:16 AM <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-translators-request@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-translators-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send ubuntu-translators mailing list submissions to<br>
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1. adding underscore to words (Jwtiyar ali)<br>
2. Re: adding underscore to words (Yaron Shahrabani)<br>
3. Re: adding underscore to words (Jwtiyar ali)<br>
4. Re: adding underscore to words (Gunnar Hjalmarsson)<br>
5. Re: adding underscore to words (Jwtiyar ali)<br>
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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 16:53:55 +0300<br>
From: Jwtiyar ali <<a href="mailto:jwtiyar@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jwtiyar@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Hey<br>
As you may know, our Kurdish (Sorani) language is RTL script, the<br>
underscore symbol is caused some problem to us at the beginning of the<br>
translation, so we added underscore as it is in our language, but now all<br>
underscore will shown in the system texts and buttons, what we do about<br>
that?<br>
remove underscore from every word or anything?<br>
<br>
Best Regards.<br>
Jwtiyar Nariman<br>
Google Map Maker (RL)<br>
*Physical Lab. / Internal Auditor (ISO 9001:2015)*<br>
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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 17:08:30 +0300<br>
From: Yaron Shahrabani <<a href="mailto:sh.yaron@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">sh.yaron@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Jwtiyar ali <<a href="mailto:jwtiyar@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jwtiyar@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: adding underscore to words<br>
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Hey there Jwtiyar!<br>
My name is Yaron Shahrabani (Kurdish origins) and I'm from the Hebrew<br>
localization team so we share some challenges regarding RTL.<br>
<br>
When you're talking about underscore, are you referring to the access<br>
characters? Those which allow the users to access the menus without a<br>
mouse? Those that have & or _ before them?<br>
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Can you please share the status of the Arabic and Persian status on that<br>
matter and how it was solved over their localization efforts?<br>
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Nice to meet you!<br>
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On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 16:54 Jwtiyar ali <<a href="mailto:jwtiyar@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jwtiyar@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Hey<br>
> As you may know, our Kurdish (Sorani) language is RTL script, the<br>
> underscore symbol is caused some problem to us at the beginning of the<br>
> translation, so we added underscore as it is in our language, but now all<br>
> underscore will shown in the system texts and buttons, what we do about<br>
> that?<br>
> remove underscore from every word or anything?<br>
><br>
> Best Regards.<br>
> Jwtiyar Nariman<br>
> Google Map Maker (RL)<br>
> *Physical Lab. / Internal Auditor (ISO 9001:2015)*<br>
><br>
> *Mass Iraq Co. for cement industry *<br>
> My Blog <<a href="http://jwtear.blogspot.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://jwtear.blogspot.com</a>><br>
> Why Linux Is Better <<a href="http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/index_ku.php?lang=ku" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/index_ku.php?lang=ku</a>><br>
> Freedom For Abdullah Ocalan (APO) <<a href="http://www.freedom-for-ocalan.com/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.freedom-for-ocalan.com/</a>><br>
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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 17:33:11 +0300<br>
From: Jwtiyar ali <<a href="mailto:jwtiyar@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jwtiyar@gmail.com</a>><br>
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Subject: Re: adding underscore to words<br>
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Thank you for replay, the problem is that I don't know which menu they mean<br>
when it will access? for persian and arabic i dont know I have to see it.<br>
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Jwtiyar Nariman<br>
Google Map Maker (RL)<br>
*Physical Lab. / Internal Auditor (ISO 9001:2015)*<br>
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*Mass Iraq Co. for cement industry *<br>
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On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 5:08 PM Yaron Shahrabani <<a href="mailto:sh.yaron@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">sh.yaron@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Hey there Jwtiyar!<br>
> My name is Yaron Shahrabani (Kurdish origins) and I'm from the Hebrew<br>
> localization team so we share some challenges regarding RTL.<br>
><br>
> When you're talking about underscore, are you referring to the access<br>
> characters? Those which allow the users to access the menus without a<br>
> mouse? Those that have & or _ before them?<br>
><br>
> Can you please share the status of the Arabic and Persian status on that<br>
> matter and how it was solved over their localization efforts?<br>
><br>
> Nice to meet you!<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 16:54 Jwtiyar ali <<a href="mailto:jwtiyar@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jwtiyar@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Hey<br>
>> As you may know, our Kurdish (Sorani) language is RTL script, the<br>
>> underscore symbol is caused some problem to us at the beginning of the<br>
>> translation, so we added underscore as it is in our language, but now all<br>
>> underscore will shown in the system texts and buttons, what we do about<br>
>> that?<br>
>> remove underscore from every word or anything?<br>
>><br>
>> Best Regards.<br>
>> Jwtiyar Nariman<br>
>> Google Map Maker (RL)<br>
>> *Physical Lab. / Internal Auditor (ISO 9001:2015)*<br>
>><br>
>> *Mass Iraq Co. for cement industry *<br>
>> My Blog <<a href="http://jwtear.blogspot.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://jwtear.blogspot.com</a>><br>
>> Why Linux Is Better<br>
>> <<a href="http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/index_ku.php?lang=ku" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/index_ku.php?lang=ku</a>><br>
>> Freedom For Abdullah Ocalan (APO) <<a href="http://www.freedom-for-ocalan.com/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.freedom-for-ocalan.com/</a>><br>
>> --<br>
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>> <a href="mailto:ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br>
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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2020 19:09:55 +0100<br>
From: Gunnar Hjalmarsson <<a href="mailto:gunnarhj@ubuntu.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gunnarhj@ubuntu.com</a>><br>
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On 2020-03-27 14:53, Jwtiyar ali wrote:<br>
> Hey<br>
> As you may know, our Kurdish (Sorani) language is RTL script, the<br>
> underscore symbol is caused some problem to us at the beginning of<br>
> the translation, so we added underscore as it is in our language, but<br>
> now all underscore will shown in the system texts and buttons, what<br>
> we do about that? remove underscore from every word or anything?<br>
<br>
I saw that you asked about this at the gnome-i18n mailing list too.<br>
<br>
<a href="https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2020-March/msg00109.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2020-March/msg00109.html</a><br>
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The advice you got in that thread, i.e. use the latin underscore <br>
(Unicode U+005F) instead of the underscore from your own script, sounds <br>
plausible to me. It would be good if you could report back here when you <br>
have tested that.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Gunnar Hjalmarsson<br>
<a href="https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj</a><br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2020 08:44:37 +0300<br>
From: Jwtiyar ali <<a href="mailto:jwtiyar@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jwtiyar@gmail.com</a>><br>
To: Gunnar Hjalmarsson <<a href="mailto:gunnarhj@ubuntu.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gunnarhj@ubuntu.com</a>>, Ubuntu translators<br>
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Subject: Re: adding underscore to words<br>
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Thank you dear gunnar<br>
Yes iam working on it now, hope i can finish them soon. I didn't know that<br>
this underscore make this problem to us.<br>
But another question please:<br>
The interface of ubuntu with new kurdish(sorani) language is LTR not RTL,<br>
what we can do to make it RTL?<br>
<br>
BEST REGARDS<br>
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On Sat, Mar 28, 2020, 03:30 Gunnar Hjalmarsson <<a href="mailto:gunnarhj@ubuntu.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gunnarhj@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Please reply to the mailing list, and not only to me.<br>
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> On 2020-03-27 20:59, Jwtiyar ali wrote:<br>
> > Thank you dear gunnar<br>
> > Yes iam working on it now, hope i can finish them soon. I didn't know<br>
> > that this underscore make this problem to us.<br>
> > But another question please:<br>
> > The interface of ubuntu with new kurdish(sorani) language is LTR not<br>
> > RTL, what we can do to make it RTL?<br>
> ><br>
> > BEST REGARDS<br>
> ><br>
> > On Fri, Mar 27, 2020, 21:24 Gunnar Hjalmarsson <<a href="mailto:gunnarhj@ubuntu.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gunnarhj@ubuntu.com</a><br>
> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:gunnarhj@ubuntu.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gunnarhj@ubuntu.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > On 2020-03-27 14:53, Jwtiyar ali wrote:<br>
> > > Hey<br>
> > > As you may know, our Kurdish (Sorani) language is RTL script, the<br>
> > > underscore symbol is caused some problem to us at the beginning of<br>
> > > the translation, so we added underscore as it is in our language,<br>
> but<br>
> > > now all underscore will shown in the system texts and buttons,<br>
> what<br>
> > > we do about that? remove underscore from every word or anything?<br>
> ><br>
> > I saw that you asked about this at the gnome-i18n mailing list too.<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2020-March/msg00109.html" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-i18n/2020-March/msg00109.html</a><br>
> ><br>
> > The advice you got in that thread, i.e. use the latin underscore<br>
> > (Unicode U+005F) instead of the underscore from your own script,<br>
> sounds<br>
> > plausible to me. It would be good if you could report back here when<br>
> > you<br>
> > have tested that.<br>
> ><br>
> > --<br>
> > Gunnar Hjalmarsson<br>
> > <a href="https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj</a><br>
> ><br>
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