<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;">From: Ahmed Kamal <kim0@ubuntu.com> To: Connor Imes <rocket2dmn@ubuntu.com> Cc: ubuntu-doc <ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com>; ubuntu-translators@lists.ubuntu.com Sent: Monday, October 17, 2011 6:22 AM Subject: Re: Merge requests for serverguide On 10/17/2011 03:28 AM, Connor Imes wrote: > > On 10/16/2011 09:12 PM, Peter Matulis wrote: >> On 11-10-16 05:29 PM, Connor Imes wrote: >> >>> We are still looking for somebody to maintain the serverguide. I've >>> been handling the merge requests and a couple of small bug reports, but >>> that's about it (and it's not my area of expertise). If you or somebody >>> on your team would like to take over control of these docs, that would >>> be awesome. >> I asked about plans for the next release (in ubuntu-server m/l) and was >> told that we will use the same model we used for Oneiric. This was >> essentially asking (on the m/l) for people to review and update the >> guide. So I'm not sure we're looking for a central maintainer. I >> helped with 2 subchapters and will most likely take on the rest of that >> chapter (for Precise) but let me know if help of another kind is needed. > This may be manageable for awhile, but we do still need somebody to > really take ownership who has a little more expertise with Ubuntu server > and server-related software. For now, let's just try to have the merge > requests is earlier - well in advance of string freeze so that the > requests can be reviewed, modified if needed, and committed before > string freeze takes effect. >>> It was great that the server team provided us with doc updates this >>> release, even if many were too late for string freeze. Now we're all on >>> the same page, and I'm sure we can pull it together sooner next release. >> I'm still puzzled by this. Does it matter or does it not matter that >> this server documentation is no longer shipped in the archive (up to, >> and including, Lucid, there was a 'ubuntu-serverguide' package). It's >> provided via <a target="_blank" href="http://help.ubuntu.com">help.ubuntu.com</a> now. > Matthew mentioned in a separate part of this email thread that it does > still matter because the serverguide is open to translation for other > communities to post online or elsewhere if they wish. It also makes > maintenance and scheduling easier to be consistent across the board. > That said, it is probably easier to get string freeze exceptions now for > the serverguide, but it still requires the approval of the translators > team, adding more time and work for everybody involved. > > -Connor > I think the current model of farming out reviews and updates to m/l has been successful and should be continued. However, someone still needs to do the management part of all that (pad, updates, communications, merge proposals ...etc). For Oneiric I worked on that, and there was a very limited time budget. For 12.04 things should be much better. If anyone is interested in taking over this serverguide-manager position, please step-up. I have a single volunteer atm, however I'll probably be sending a call-out soon To Doc Managers, I would like to volunteer for this or at least nominate Ahmed. (kim0) Regards, Leo Jackson </div></div></div></body></html>