[oneiric] Where should we keep the serverguide?

[David Planella]

El dt 03 de 05 de 2011 a les 10:43 +0100, en/na Matthew East va
escriure:
> Hi David,
> 
> On 3 May 2011 10:18, David Planella <david.planella at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > Please do not forget about translations. The server guide is a huge
> > document and there are translation teams which have done an incredible
> > effort to translate it.
> >
> > Once the separate branch has been set up, may I ask someone with write
> > permissions to commit these [1] PO files to it? I've just exported them
> > from Launchpad to make it easier.
> 
> We have already included the translations from the natty ubuntu-docs
> branch in the new serverguide branch. We will update these when the
> natty translations are updated.
> 

Thanks!

> > And once more, now that the server guide will only be available online
> > and on PDF, I'd like to bring up the subject of enabling translations on
> > help.ubuntu.com, as otherwise only the English version will be
> > available. Translators and LoCos keep asking for this, and I'll be more
> > than happy to help in anything I can in that regard.
> 
> Each time we discuss this it seems to stall. I've repeatedly set out
> my reasons why I think that local team websites should be encouraged
> to provide localised help rather than help.ubuntu.com, and I've
> repeatedly said that I'm interested in hearing what translators and
> local team leaders think about it - but the discussion never seems to
> get further than that. See for example:
> 

Translators: we've talked about it at UDS and on the list in the past.
May I ask those of you who'd like to see a localized help.ubuntu.com
instead of having localized team websites to host the localized content
state your reasons on this thread?

This will be very useful in bringing the discussion forward.

> The last time we discussed it, I noted that there was a specification
> in the ubuntu-website project to develop an auto-redirection solution
> for www.ubuntu.com which offers users a link to the local team website
> in their language. If that solution were implemented for
> www.ubuntu.com, I think it would be sensible to use it for
> help.ubuntu.com too.
> 

I'm not very happy with a redirection vs. a full localization solution.
As far as I know, that redirection project is now stalled.

> Various references to previous discussions.
> 
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2010-May/014775.html
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2010-May/014782.html
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2010-September/015159.html
> 
> Would you be willing to prepare a specification setting out the pros
> and cons of the idea and starting a(nother) discussion about it? If
> the solution is to implement some technology on help.ubuntu.com that
> points users to a local website, would someone be interested in
> working on this?
> 

My idea was to simply enable localized content on the current site (I
guess it's an apache server just serving html pages?). I'll be happy to
prepare a spec on this or on a more sophisticated approach, but I want
to set up expectations: due to changes in the work I'm going to do this
cycle (more on this on a separate thread), while I'd be able to help, I
won't probably be able to drive the full spec implementation unless
someone steps up to help. Also, if I prepare a specification and a UDS
session, I'd like to know if at least someone from the docs team would
be able to participate in the session.

> > Finally, another thought: would it not make sense to have an additional,
> > separate serverguide source package, so that the documentation can also
> > be read offline in an installed system?. Apologies if that's been
> > discussed already, as I haven't followed all the previous threads on the
> > server guide.
> 
> This was discussed here:
> 
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-doc/2010-August/015117.html
> 
> and on the server list:
> 
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2010-August/004551.html
> 
> The decision was to remove the package.
> 

Thanks for the references!

Cheers,
David.

-- 
David Planella
Ubuntu Translations Coordinator
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