[Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

Tom Davies tomdavies04 at yahoo.co.uk
Mon Nov 8 11:46:25 GMT 2010


I really like this idea!!

A definite +1, or more!  Can i do a +42 ?

Yes, Unity is a vast change but it is pretty rare to have something that huge 
change.  Usually this plan would work i am sure.  How long since Ubuntu switched 
to gnome?  So how long do we think Unity might last?
Regards from
Tom :)




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From: Chris Woollard <cwoollard at gmail.com>
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Sent: Fri, 5 November, 2010 10:46:28
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations

I have been thinking quite a lot about the idea of doing a new manual only for 
the LTS release. This could be a reasonable idea considering the amount of time 
and effort involved in writing a manual.

In addition to the LTS manual, it might be worth doing a New Features guide 
every release that just contains changes since the LTS. Obviously this would be 
a lot shorter than a full manual release, so should be easier to do. Maybe just 
containing an updated installation chapter and a chapter about other new 
features. Considering that with 11.04 the default interface is changing to 
unity, it might be useful.

Let me know what you think?

Thanks
Chris



On 1 November 2010 11:02, Anton Meixome <meixome at certima.net> wrote:

I agree too as translator (Galician). Manual only for LTS is
>sufficient, and gives a window time for capitalize the effort.
>
>Antón
>
>2010/11/1 Hannie Lafeber-Dumoleyn <lafeber-dumoleyn2 at zonnet.nl>:
>
>> Let me react on this as a translator (Dutch). I totally agree with your
>> proposal to release the manual once a year, or even only for the LTS
>> versions. To us translators every 6 months is also a bit too much. The lucid
>> version is a very good manual for people who are new to Ubuntu, even if they
>> are using Maverick at the moment. We are about to release the lucid version
>> in Dutch (waiting for the quickshot server to work again).
>> Regards,
>> Hannie Dumoleyn
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Benjamin Humphrey" <humphreybc at gmail.com>
>> To: "Manual mailing list" <ubuntu-manual at lists.launchpad.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 10:50 PM
>> Subject: [Ubuntu-manual] Releasing manuals less often, ditching translations
>>
>>
>>> Hey guys,
>>>
>>> I don't have much time to write a lengthy email so this is going to be
>>> to the point. As everyone will know, the last 4 months in this team
>>> have been terrible - we've been getting nothing done, the manual for
>>> Maverick is still not out and we're not moving forward. This is
>>> combination of a few things, myself and a lot of the core contributors
>>> have been extremely busy in the second half of 2010, we've been
>>> pushing hard for the Lucid manual and some of us might be a bit burnt
>>> out, our barrier for new contributors is way too high and the demand
>>> for a new manual every 6 months, plus translations and screenshots is
>>> just too much for the team to handle without full time contributors.
>>>
>>> Rather than see the team disintegrate, which would be terrible, I
>>> figure we need to slim our goals down a bit and perhaps give us a
>>> greater time span to work in. Hence I propose one (or both) of the
>>> following:
>>>
>>> * Not releasing the manual for every release, but perhaps only .04
>>> releases (yearly) or only LTS releases (every two years).
>>> * Releasing only in English, at least until we have a better
>>> infrastructure for translations
>>>
>>> My preference would be the first option. I feel that it's not
>>> necessary for us to have a new manual every 6 months, what with the
>>> large amount of documentation and support elsewhere and the fact that
>>> not enough changes every six months to justify a new book. I think
>>> that having our material in other languages is important, but it's
>>> difficult to coordinate such a mammoth task when we have very limited
>>> infrastructure for translation this amount of text.
>>>
>>> I believe if we toned down our lofty release goals, we'll have more
>>> time to work on things like the Support and Learning Center, the
>>> personas, quickstart booklets and other things, giving us a better,
>>> more complete and concise product overall, even if it was released
>>> less regularly.
>>>
>>> Please let me know your thoughts. We should also have a meeting soon.
>>>
>>> --
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