ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: contemplating some string changes

Tue Mar 23 12:57:09 UTC 2010

Hi Dylan,

El Sa 13 de 03 de 2010 a les 12:08 +0100, en/na David Planella va
escriure:
> Hi Dylan,
> 
> El dv 12 de 03 de 2010 a les 15:27 -0800, en/na Dylan McCall va
> escriure:
> > Hi there!
> > 
> > With the redesigned ubiquity-slideshow I blogged about, I received a
> > ton of constructive feedback. It inspired many possible string changes
> > in ubiquity-slideshow's Ubuntu template. With that and some
> > interesting details which have emerged now that the dust around
> > Lucid's new stuff storm has settled, I have an overwhelming urge to
> > modify about 30% of the strings :o
> 
> First of all, good work with the Ubiquity Slideshow, I haven't tried the
> installer since a few days, but the screenshots look awesome.
> 
> For those who haven't seen the blog post, it's here:
> 
>   http://dylanmccall.blogspot.com/2010/03/new-stuff-for-ubiquity-slideshow.html
> 
> > 
> > Of course, this is an ugly position, because looking at Rosetta there
> > are a bunch of full translations and some other partial ones that are
> > rather well along, and I do hate to break things. (Honest!)
> > 
> 
> Ubiquity is currently fully translated in 29 languages [1], with some
> ten more nearing completion.
> 
> > Would it be okay for the translation effort if I upload the new
> > strings and consider them frozen with documentation freeze on March
> > 25?
> > 
> 
> We've got a procedure for this:
> 
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#UserInterfaceFreeze%
> 20Exceptions
> 
> While I think you don't have to file a bug about it right now, it would
> be very helpful if you could tell us some more about the changes, so we
> can decide whether they are worth breaking translations at this point.
> For example, I'd be interested to know:
> 
>       * Which packages would be affected (the Ubuntu Slideshow, the
>         Kubuntu Slideshow, the Xubuntu Slideshow, the Upgrade Slideshow,
>         all)?
> 
>       * Which exact strings would be affected and how?
> 

Have you had the chance to look at this?

Thanks!

Regards,
David.

> Note that sting freeze breaks are nothing that dramatic if they are
> properly communicated, but we have the procedure there for a reason:
> translators have got quite a lot of packages to work on and not everyone
> can monitor everything, so it can be very frustrating both for
> translators and users to find out that something appears unnoticeably
> untranslated because of a break, and that their work has been lost.
> 
> I'd be most interested to hear what the teams who have completed all
> translations have got to say. Altough exceptions disrupt the translation
> work, we've learnt to accomodate for them.
> 
> > There would then be beta 2 and the release candidates for translations
> > to be tested.
> > 
> 
> Another semi-related note: you might be doing this already, but just in
> case I'll reinstate. It would be quite useful that before milestones
> translations are imported from Launchpad and integrated into the
> package, since we often get bugs during milestone testing that
> translations are not complete, although they've been completed in
> Launchpad.
> 
> > A lot of this stuff is about clarification; just small changes. There
> > is the odd addition (eg: Ubuntu One Music Store, useful information in
> > the Empathy slide) which will completely replace old strings. I'm okay
> > to prioritize things and only submit what is really important, but
> > that could take a bit longer to work through (and wouldn't be as
> > attractive in the end).
> > 
> 
> Prioritization sounds good. Yes, if you could tell us which strings are
> affected, the translators could help in making the decision whether all
> changes are worth or if there is need for prioritization.
> 
> > I realize that having fancy English pales in comparison to having rich
> > translations in a million different languages. So, I want to give
> > everyone a heads up (just so nobody else translates the possibly
> > doomed strings) and be sure this won't cause too much damage.
> > 
> 
> Thanks for the heads up, this kind of communication is always appreciate
> by translators.
> 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Dylan McCall
> > 
> > PS: My thought at this point is that it would really make sense for my
> > project, going forwards, to be considered a documentation package as
> > far as string freeze is concerned. Anyone know how I can go about
> > that?
> > 
> 
> I think it's just a matter of adding a note to
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule, especially to
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationStringFreeze, but I'm not sure how
> well this is going to work. This will give you more time in stabilizing
> the strings, but we put the Ubiquity Slideshow packages on the first
> page of the translation templates in Launchpad. This means they are
> really visible, and translators tend to go for these first, so it might
> be difficult to explain that they are documentation-like translations
> and follow a different string freeze schedule.
> 
> > PPS: It occurs to me that we could probably add new translations when
> > the 10.04.1 images are made, too :)
> > 
> 
> That's true, but I would use that opportunity to include those languages
> which couldn't finish the translation by the Lucid release, not to
> extend the deadline for translations :-)
> 
> Regards,
> David.
> 
> [1] https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+source/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/+pots/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu
> 

-- 
David Planella
Ubuntu Translations Coordinator
david(dot)planella(at)ubuntu(dot)com
www.ubuntu.com

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