Template priorities in Launchpad set up for Karmic

David Planella david.planella at ubuntu.com
Fri Jan 22 10:03:16 UTC 2010


Hey Adi,

El dj 21 de 01 de 2010 a les 21:52 +0200, en/na Adi Roiban va escriure:
> În data de Jo, 21-01-2010 la 10:36 +0100, David Planella a scris:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I'd like to announce that the priorities of translation templates in
> > Launchpad have now been set for Karmic according to the classification
> > below:
> > 
> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/TemplatesPriority#Priority%20policy
> 
> ------
> Here is my list of templates I think could have their priority
> decreased:
> 
>  * gimp* - I think gimp and all its plugins are used by technical person
> who know english. I don't see my mother/grandmother using gimp.  
> 

I think for Karmic we can move it a bit further down, yes, but I would
not put as further down as the end of the 'GUI, default, GNOME'
category, since there it is still installed by default, and even if it
is used by advanced users, it is a very popular app.

>  * compiz-plugins-* , while all the plugins are great, from the point of
> view of translations, I think they have little impact on the usability.
> The main compiz package could stay as it is enabled by default.
> 

The compiz-plugins-* seem to be installed by default, that's why I put
them there to keep them together with the compiz main package, but I
agree that they have less impact than other packages to the user
experience, so, yes, we could move them at the end of the 'GUI, default,
GNOME' category.

That said, I'll have to review how I calculated the packages installed
by default. What I've used so far are the source packages present in the
LiveCD, but some of them, such as tracker, do not seem to be installed.

>  * not sure about GGZ Gamin Zone template... but maybe people do play a
> lot of online games supporting ggz.
>   Put them together with ggz-gtk-client
> 

Sounds good to me.

>  * tracker - as far as I know it is no longer installed by default
> 

Yes, I think it can go further down.

> I will move them just above the bulk (around 600) KDE templates.
> 

Sounds good to me, taking into account the comment on GIMP.

> ------------------------------
> Here is my list of templates I think could have their priority increades
> above the KDE bulk:
> 
> * ubuntu-docs - they are installed by default and now they are around
> position 800.

That's because of the classification on
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/TemplatesPriority#Priority%
20policy. Summarizing it:

GUI, default, installer
GUI, default, Ubuntu
GUI, default, Kubuntu
docs, default, Ubuntu
docs, default, Kubuntu

For consistence's sake, I kept all documentation in one block and after
the GUI applications (Ubuntu first, and then Kubuntu), but if
translators think it would be better to move the block before Kubuntu,
we can consider doing it. What do other people think?

GUI, default, installer
GUI, default, Ubuntu
=> docs, default, Ubuntu
GUI, default, Kubuntu
docs, default, Kubuntu

>  Except ubuntu-doc-serverguide (not sure if it still maintained)

I was not sure, either, but I kept it with the other docs for
consistence. Matthew, do you know what the status of the Server Guide
is?

> * cheese
> * pidgin, pidgin-libnotify - even if epiphany is the new client, I know
> many person still using pidgin
> * nautilus-cd-burner - a simple alternative to brasero

It sounds good to me, to move them further up the 'GUI, non-default'
block, but I'd like to keep them inside the block to tell them apart
from GUI apps installed by default, since I'll be using the priorities
to generate the distro translation statistics.

> * not sure about pessulus and sabayon - they are port of the main Gnome

Yes, altough not generally used by the normal user. They can perhaps go
further up in the 'GUI, non-default' block.

> * pppconfig and pppoeconf - when NetworkManager have problems, this
> tools are often used.

I'm not too sure, since I'd still prefer to prioritise the GUI
applications over the command-line ones. They are not mentioned in the
Ubuntu documentation, either. We can definitely put them at the top of
the 'CLI, default' block for now, though.

> * gtk+ gtk+-properties ... don't know why it is at position 1200

Well spotted. The template name in the list (and the source package) did
not seem to match those in Launchpad. I've set the priorites manually
and should now appear further up the list.

> * ibus-pinyin ... should this template be near the other ibus stuff?
> (Just asking)

Perhaps some of the translators using this package can tell us more on
this one?

> 
> This should be a good start :)
> 

Thanks a lot for the detailed feedback, this is very useful!

Regards,
David.

-- 
David Planella
Ubuntu Translations Coordinator
david(dot)planella(at)ubuntu(dot)com
www.ubuntu.com



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