<div dir="ltr">Mouahed NAHALI , j'espère que ce mail te/nous donnera une idée sur le travail d'ubuntu-gaming. En fait j('invite tous les membres à s'inscrire à lusieurs projets et voir de près comment ils travaillent : personellemnt j'ai appris beaucoup :) <div class="gmail_quote">---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Khalid Rashid <<a href="mailto:khalid.rashid@gmail.com">khalid.rashid@gmail.com</a>> Date: 2009/5/12 Subject: [Ubuntu-gaming] identifying obstacles in ubuntu gaming and pushing it forwards To: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-gaming@lists.launchpad.net">ubuntu-gaming@lists.launchpad.net</a> Greetings all! Be warned, large amount of incoming text :-] The team Ubuntu Gaming, right now its only current goal is to "activism/marketing effort to organize around and prioritize the biggest issues with FOSS gaming and how to address them". But that goal is a hard nut to crack, since FOSS gaming suffers from the symptom "having too much that provides too little" - in other words its lacking focus. While diversity is all good, problem is that we don't have a lot of focus that brings cutting-edge awe, like compiz is doing! First of all, we need to break down the current FOSS gaming into a few issues that needs to be adressed. 1. Development issues. This category is most relevant for the potential coders. Things such as what language/which libraries to use,where to find free resources and how easy it is to contribute to existing engines are questions that belongs here. Can we choose an engine to cover one of each genre (FPS, RTS/TBS, RPG, etc) that we promote and encourage contributions towards instead of letting developers creating yet another engine? Unification among developers could make existing FOSS engines on par with commercial ones. Do the existing engines have good documentation thats written in human language thats understandable by an outsider? Also, has anyone tried Blender3D after the apricot project and tested its new game engine capabilities? Regarding free resources, the freedesktop games team seems to have the free resources covered: <a href="http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Games/Resources" target="_blank">http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Games/Resources</a> 2. Packaging & distrubution Can backports be done quick enough to get new versions out? is not, what is the obstacle? As an alternative, do we have a packager that can provide latest versions through a PPA? 3. community movement This area covers A. "multiplayer & clanship" and B. "contributing artwork and modding the game", and IMO the most critical part of these mentioned issues. What good is a game engine without a community after all? 3A. This requires a clan movement, community servers and PPAs that provide the latest version if missing from backports. Do we have a server running 24/7? do we have enough gamers in each area (FPS/RTS etc) to justify a server for each game, or should the servers capacity be scheduled for example a game per week which is decided by voting? Can we have a mumble server so we can engage in VOIP coordination simultaniously? Another fun thing to consider is to see if other distros have a gaming team and see if they're interested in wars. What better could there be to fight for the honour of your distro? ;-) Also, can Also LAN parties arranged by LoCos could be a fun way for gamers and indirectly a subtle way for people to get introduced into ubuntu. 3B. There is a lot of artists, writers out there that are *assets* to us, if we could just use make it easy for them! The most basic obstacle here is the documentation - is the game well documented from the devs? can the community fill in gaps or make the documentation easier to understand? Do the have the tools to put their ideas into mods? This point can make a single-player game infinitly more fun and a game so infinitly more varied (variety here is good!). Just look at epic and how longlived unreal tournament 2004 was thanks to modding - you could have melee battles with ChaosUT, you could be a pirate on hot-air balloons with airbuccaneers and shoot aliens with alienswarm. Its not necsecarly DirectX 10 effects that makes games fun, its the playability. Just look at roguelikes or simple games like world of goo. With a strong community, Ubuntu (and in turn, Linux and FOSS) with gain momentum in order to push it further and will make it possible to reach the goals of 4 and 5. 4. (depends on #3)Using Gaming as marketing asset Now this strongly depends on point 3, and for this we need shiny, fun games. Maybe even linux exclusive games, if we're feeling evil. Here is where LoCo arranged LAN parties can be of great help. 5. (also dependent on #3) pushing the platform to get more games from companies. We have awesome support from nvidia and ATI too with their opensource drivers, we should companies that linux gaming is viable, and they should base on Ubuntu. Also the possibilities where they distribute demos or copies of their games on a CD which also acts as a LiveCD when inserted at boot eliminated all problems with incompabilities in the OS. The stronger the community is, the bigger the influence and weight our requests have on commercial game developers. Note that this point may not go with the teams pure FOSS philosophy. This might need to be worked on it on the side independently from the group, unless the group is ready to change its stand on that point. Since I think with this teams goal, our focus is on 3 & 4 (and 5 for those interested). Lets start with the basic stuff, do we have a community clan? ubuntu clan existed and died a while ago. Considering timezones the most sane idea would be having an american, european/african and asia/oceania clan - if enough people in those areas are interested. We need official clan leaders to step forward and gain a group to form a clan. Then the clan should provide means to play existing FOSS games and not to stick to one only. But to do that, there should be a server and means to install the latest version of a game ;-) But that is a later problem,I think the first step right now is to find willing clan leaders and clan members that will be organized and dedicatd to the motherla-,err, brother&sisterhood of ubuntu! Second is, what engines out there are easily modded? anyone with experience on this field that could enlighten us? What do you think people, does this sound like a feasible goal for the ubuntu gaming team? <blockquote style="margin: 1.5em 0pt;"><table border="1"><tbody><tr><td> <div style="padding: 5px; font-size: 12px; color: rgb(102, 102, 102);"><a href="mailto:khalid.rashid@gmail.com" target="_blank">Khalid Rashid</a> <div style="font-size: 10px;"> My PGP public key ID: <a href="http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xCC9370B757DE41F0A9B35496A8F1137DBFC11F5F" target="_blank">BFC11F5F</a> <div style="color: rgb(85, 85, 85);"> "In the middle of every difficulty lies opportunity." -Albert Einstein </div></div></div></td></tr><tr></tr></tbody></table> </blockquote> _______________________________________________ Mailing list: <a href="https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-gaming" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-gaming</a> Post to : <a href="mailto:ubuntu-gaming@lists.launchpad.net">ubuntu-gaming@lists.launchpad.net</a> Unsubscribe : <a href="https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-gaming" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-gaming</a> More help : <a href="https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp" target="_blank">https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp</a> </div> -- Cordialement Rached ALEYA Ingénieur Informatique Temps Réel Linux registred user #485643 (<a href="http://counter.li.org">http://counter.li.org</a>) ubuntu user : 26515 (<a href="http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net">http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net</a>) Coordinateur groupe Rédaction Ubuntu-tn (<a href="http://ubuntu-tn.org">http://ubuntu-tn.org</a> channel irc sur freenode : #ubuntu-tn) Membre de groupe de Projets : linuxac (<a href="http://www.linuxac.org">www.linuxac.org</a> channel irc sur freenode : #linuxac) </div>