New Project name of Ubuntu Muslim Edition
Abdelmonam Kouka
abdelmonam.kouka at gmail.com
Mer 18 Mar 08:16:37 UTC 2009
2009/3/18 A.B. <mdih at free.fr>
> en fait je m'étais arrêté qu'à leur feuille de route. Cela étant dit
> apparemment Canonical leur avait écrit depuis mai 2008.
Suivant leur mail, ils ont écrit à un element du group qui, soit n'a pas
reçu le mail soit l'a reçu mais a oublié de le forwarder, ce qui me semble
bizarre c'est qu'ils n'ont pas envoyé directement à l'admin directement
pourtant son mail existe sur le site!
> Bah c'est très
> bien sabili avec un sous titre ce sera clair. Je vais me rajouter sur la
> mailing list d'ubuntu muslim edition.
Aya mar7bé bik :)
>
> A+
> Le mardi 17 mars 2009 à 22:17 +0100, Abdelmonam Kouka a écrit :
> > Wa alaykom assalem,
> >
> > Merci pour les remarques sauf que le vote a été fait depuis un mois :)
> > en plus l'utilisation du mot "ubuntu" en soit même pose un probleme
> > chez canonical.
> >
> > Une autre bonne nouvelle: coté africain le mot "Sabili" en language
> > Swahili veut dire "Free" :) donc 3asfourin ib7ajra wa7da :D
> >
> > 2009/3/17 A.B. <mdih at free.fr>
> > Salam,
> >
> > Je pense que l'appeler Ubuntu Me Sabili est une bonne idée car
> > c'est un
> > nom qui est chargé de sens. Cependant pour l'utilisateur non
> > averti, il
> > ne comprendra pas s'il est indien ou indonésien (la majorité
> > des
> > mususlmans ne sont pas arabophones). Cela dit cela pourra
> > l'inciter à
> > aller se renseigner. C'est pourquoi je propose de l'appeler
> > Ubuntu
> > Muslim Release (c'est la meme chose Edition ss qu'on dise
> > Edition, on
> > comprend tout de suite, c'est en anglais ce qui est clair) et
> > de mettre
> > comme slogan أقرou أقرأ باسم ربك
> > ce qui permet d'insister sur l'idée de savoir et de
> > connaissance qui est
> > très importante dans le logiciel libre et dans ubuntu. La aya
> > de sourate
> > youssef, elle est sympa mais elle donne l'impression que
> > l'utilisateur
> > d'ubuntu est isolé et qu'il prêche dans le désert.
> >
> > On peut aussi l'appeler Ubuntu Sabili et mettre en sous titre
> > the ubuntu
> > muslim release ce qui incite les gens à savoir ce que veut
> > dire sabili
> > et en terme de reconnaissance et d'image de marque est très
> > clair et
> > explicite.
> >
> > Mabrouk pour le mariage
> > A+
> >
> > Mdih
> > Le lundi 16 mars 2009 à 21:43 +0100, Abdelmonam Kouka a
> > écrit :
> >
> > > 2009/3/16 Nizar Kerkeni <nizar.kerkeni at gmail.com>
> > > Bonjour,
> > > Qu'est ce qu'il y a eu comme changement dans la
> > politique de
> > > canonical
> > > pour que des noms comme ça ne sont plus autorisés ?
> > > Amicalement
> > > Voici le mail de la part de Mehdi l'admin du projet, il
> > contient
> > > l'explication:
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: <jmehdi at ubuntume.com>
> > > Date: 2009/1/21
> > > Subject: [UbuntuME] [Fwd: Re: Ubuntu Muslim Edition]
> > > To: ubuntume.team at lists.launchpad.net
> > > Cc: ubuntume at googlegroups.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Canonical contacted us last may, but the email was sent to
> > Rashid, and
> > > either he didn't get it or didn't forward it :(
> > >
> > > so let's go for a new name!
> > >
> > > Mehdi
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Forwarded message from michelle at canonical.com -----
> > > Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:42:34 +0000
> > > From: Michelle Surtees-Myers <michelle at canonical.com>
> > > Reply-To: Michelle Surtees-Myers <michelle at canonical.com>
> > > Subject: [Fwd: Re: Ubuntu Muslim Edition]
> > > To: jmehdi at ubuntume.com
> > >
> > > Dear Mehdi,
> > >
> > > Thank you for contacting us.
> > >
> > > I have attached below the original response I sent to a
> > member of your
> > > team with regard to the request to use Ubuntu Muslim
> > Edition. I got
> > > this name from your website.
> > >
> > > As you can see, my email was sent in May 2008.
> > >
> > > Unfortunately we cannot allow you to use Ubuntu Muslim
> > Edition. The
> > > word
> > > Edition has a very specific meaning for the Ubuntu project
> > and we do
> > > not
> > > allow different projects to refer to editions.
> > >
> > > The attached email outlines our position in more detail.
> > >
> > > I am sorry for any work that you will have to do to change
> > the name,
> > > but
> > > as I said, I did write to you last year about this.
> > >
> > > I trust that you understand our position in this regard.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > > Michelle
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > > Subject: Re: Ubuntu Muslim Edition
> > > Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 12:41:26 +0100
> > > From: Michelle Surtees-Myers <michelle at canonical.com>
> > > To: rashid786 at gmail.com
> > > CC: Jeroen Vermeulen <jtv at canonical.com>
> > > References: <47FB5BD1.2050009 at canonical.com>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To whom it may concern,
> > >
> > > I hope that I am contacting the right person in this regard,
> > but if
> > > not,
> > > please let me know who I should contact. I work as part of
> > the
> > > Trademark
> > > team at Canonical.
> > >
> > > While we greatly appreciate your enthusiasm for Ubuntu, and
> > appreciate
> > > the time and effort you devote to the project, I'm afraid
> > there are
> > > trademark related issues with your project. We've tried to
> > define a
> > > reasonable trademark policy that allows people to customise
> > Ubuntu,
> > > and
> > > use the marks to promote the project, while at the same
> > preserving the
> > > integrity of the marks. In case you haven't seen it, that
> > policy is
> > > at
> > >
> > > http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
> > >
> > > There are trademark issues with the Ubuntu Muslim Edition
> > and to the
> > > url
> > > ubuntume.
> > >
> > > In terms of our trademark policy, we do not allow the use of
> > the word
> > > Edition. Edition is a special word in the Ubuntu project and
> > calling
> > > something an Edition implies that this is part of the Ubuntu
> > project,
> > > which is not the case and is therefore misleading. We
> > certainly
> > > encourage people to make custom versions of Ubuntu, and we
> > have
> > > established the "remix" concept and terminology to allow use
> > of the
> > > trademark if the changes are minimal or include only
> > software from the
> > > Ubuntu repositories.
> > >
> > > We also do not allow the use of Ubuntu in a url as again
> > this implies
> > > an
> > > official link to the Ubuntu project which is misleading. In
> > this case
> > > there is an obvious clash with our own UME, which is
> > confusing.
> > >
> > > Again, I'd like to stress that we appreciate your enthusiasm
> > for
> > > Ubuntu,
> > > and that the basic activities of what you are doing is fine
> > - it's one
> > > of the freedoms and powers provided by open source
> > software. But I'm
> > > afraid that using the Ubuntu name and logo (in product name,
> > on
> > > website,
> > > etc) to refer to your own product/project simply doesn't
> > work and
> > > needs
> > > to be changed.
> > >
> > > Please let me know if you have any questions.
> > >
> > > Kind regards,
> > >
> > >
> > > Michelle
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kind regards
> > >
> > > Michelle Surtees-Myers
> > > Canonical UK Ltd
> > > Tel: +44 207 630 2474 Fax: +44 207 630 2401
> > >
> > > Ubuntu - Linux for human beings
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kind regards
> > >
> > > Michelle Surtees-Myers
> > > Canonical UK Ltd
> > > Tel: +44 207 630 2474 Fax: +44 207 630 2401
> > >
> > > Ubuntu - Linux for human beings
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- End forwarded message -----
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2009/3/16 Abdelmonam Kouka
> > <abdelmonam.kouka at gmail.com>:
> > >
> < < > السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته،
> > > >
> > > > (English version is below, forward the information
> > please)
> > > >
> < < > منذ أكثر من شهر ونصف (تحديدا في 21 جانفي 2009)
> < < أرسلت Canonical رسالة email
> < < > إلى فريق النسخة الإسلامية لأوبونتو تطلب فيها تغيير
> < اسم
> < < التوزيعة واسم النطاق
> < < > لأنها تتعارض مع سياسة العلامات التجارية التي
> < وضعتها:
> > > >
> > > > “We've tried to define a reasonable trademark
> > policy that
> > > allows people to
> > > > customise Ubuntu, and
> > > >
> > > > use the marks to promote the project, while at the
> > same
> > > preserving the
> > > > integrity of the marks.”
> > > >
> < < > عندها قام الفريق باتخاذ الخطوات التالية:
> > > >
> < < > 1) تبادل الأفكار ، والبحث عن الأسماء التي لم يسبق
> < استخدامها
> > > >
> < < > 2) التصويت
> > > >
> < < > وبعد اختيار التسمية الجديدة انطلقت المرحلة
> < الثالثة:
> > > >
> < < > 3) العمل على تحديث جميع النصوص والصور
> > > >
> < < > و الآن، يسرّ فريق النسخة الإسلامية لأوبونتو أن
> < يعلن لكم على
> < < بركة الله الإسم
> < < > الجديد للتوزيعة ألا وهو: "سبيلي". وسيكون الشعار
> < الجديد:
> > > >
> < < > (قل هذه سبيلي أدعو إلى الله على بصيرة أنا ومن
> < اتبعني)
> > > >
> < < > -وهو الجزء الأول من الآية 108 من سورة يوسف-
> > > >
> < < > نرجو من كافة الأخوة والأخوات تمرير المعلومة، كما
> < نرجو من كل
> < < من يرى في نفسه
> < < > القدرة على مد يد المساعدة في التطوير (تطوير
> < البرامج
> < < الإسلامية أو تصميمات
> < < > الجرافيكس)، أو من له أفكار جديدة للتوزيعة أن لا
> < يتردد في
> < < الإتصال بنا عن
> < < > طريق:
> > > >
> < < > * المجموعة البريدية للمساعدة التقنية الخاصة
> < بالمشروع:
> > > >
> > > >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntume?hl=en&pli=1
> > > >
> < < > * المجموعة البريدية الخاصة بالتطوير:
> > > >
> > > > https://launchpad.net/sabily
> > > >
> < < > لمزيد من المعلومات حول المشروع الرجاء زيارة موقع
> < الواب الخاص
> < < به:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ubuntume.com/
> > > >
> > > > Assalamo alaykom wa rahmato Allah wa baraketoh,
> > > >
> > > > For more than a month and a half (specifically, on
> > 21
> > > January 2009)
> > > > Canonical sent an email to the Ubuntu Muslim
> > Edition team
> > > requesting to
> > > > change the project name and the URL of the web
> > site because
> > > they are
> > > > inconsistent with its trademark policy:
> > > > “We've tried to define a reasonable trademark
> > policy that
> > > allows people to
> > > > customise Ubuntu, and
> > > > use the marks to promote the project, while at the
> > same
> > > preserving the
> > > > integrity of the marks.”
> > > >
> > > > So, the team took the following steps:
> > > > 1) brainstorming, finding names which are not
> > already used
> > > > 2) voting
> > > > And after the selection of the new name, launched
> > the third
> > > phase:
> > > >
> > > > 3) working on updating all text and pictures
> > > >
> > > > And now, the Ubuntu Muslim Edition team is pleased
> > to
> > > announce the new name
> > > > of the distro:
> > > >
> < < > "سبيلي" == "my way."
> > > >
> > > > The new slogan will be:
> > > >
> < < > (قل هذه سبيلي أدعو إلى الله على بصيرة أنا ومن
> < اتبعني)
> > > >
> > > > which means "This is my way; I invite unto Allah
> > with sure
> > > knowledge, I and
> > > > whosoever follows me..."
> > > > -It is the first part of the verse 108 from Surat
> > Yusuf-
> > > >
> > > > We ask all brothers and sisters to forward this
> > information,
> > > and we hope to
> > > > receive your help in the development of the
> > project (the
> > > development of
> > > > Islamic software and/or graphics design), or by
> > giving new
> > > ideas for the
> > > > distro. Please don't hesitate to contact us via:
> > > > * Technical support mailing list for the project:
> > > >
> > http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntume?hl=en&pli=1
> > > > * Development mailing list:
> > > > https://launchpad.net/sabily
> > > >
> > > > For more information about the project please
> > visit the Web
> > > site:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.ubuntume.com/
> > > >
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> > > Abdelmonam Kouka
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Abdelmonam Kouka
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