New Project name of Ubuntu Muslim Edition
A.B.
mdih at free.Fr
Mer 18 Mar 07:10:42 UTC 2009
salam
wallahi dommage moi ubuntu satanic edition le nom il me fait bien rire.
Comme si le diable il allait sortir de l'ordinateur!
Le mardi 17 mars 2009 à 22:47 +0100, AtomCell a écrit :
> salam
> je suppose donc que les editions suivantes ont disparu?
> Ubuntu Christian Edition
> Ubuntu Satanic Edition
> Buddhabuntu
> Merci
>
> 2009/3/17 Abdelmonam Kouka <abdelmonam.kouka at gmail.com>
> Un autre point..dans les future banners inchalla on va mettre
> sous le nom du distro une phrase genre "ubuntu for Muslims" or
> "Linux for Muslims" as a description but not as a name or a
> part of the name; this will eliminate the confusion.
>
> Salem
>
> 2009/3/17 Abdelmonam Kouka <abdelmonam.kouka at gmail.com>
>
>
> Wa alaykom assalem,
>
> Merci pour les remarques sauf que le vote a été fait
> depuis un mois :) en plus l'utilisation du mot
> "ubuntu" en soit même pose un probleme chez canonical.
>
> Une autre bonne nouvelle: coté africain le mot
> "Sabili" en language Swahili veut dire "Free" :) donc
> 3asfourin ib7ajra wa7da :D
>
> 2009/3/17 A.B. <mdih at free.fr>
>
>
> Salam,
>
> Je pense que l'appeler Ubuntu Me Sabili est
> une bonne idée car c'est un
> nom qui est chargé de sens. Cependant pour
> l'utilisateur non averti, il
> ne comprendra pas s'il est indien ou
> indonésien (la majorité des
> mususlmans ne sont pas arabophones). Cela dit
> cela pourra l'inciter à
> aller se renseigner. C'est pourquoi je propose
> de l'appeler Ubuntu
> Muslim Release (c'est la meme chose Edition ss
> qu'on dise Edition, on
> comprend tout de suite, c'est en anglais ce
> qui est clair) et de mettre
> comme slogan أقرou أقرأ باسم ربك
> ce qui permet d'insister sur l'idée de savoir
> et de connaissance qui est
> très importante dans le logiciel libre et dans
> ubuntu. La aya de sourate
> youssef, elle est sympa mais elle donne
> l'impression que l'utilisateur
> d'ubuntu est isolé et qu'il prêche dans le
> désert.
>
> On peut aussi l'appeler Ubuntu Sabili et
> mettre en sous titre the ubuntu
> muslim release ce qui incite les gens à savoir
> ce que veut dire sabili
> et en terme de reconnaissance et d'image de
> marque est très clair et
> explicite.
>
> Mabrouk pour le mariage
> A+
>
> Mdih
> Le lundi 16 mars 2009 à 21:43 +0100,
> Abdelmonam Kouka a écrit :
>
> > 2009/3/16 Nizar Kerkeni
> <nizar.kerkeni at gmail.com>
> > Bonjour,
> > Qu'est ce qu'il y a eu comme
> changement dans la politique de
> > canonical
> > pour que des noms comme ça ne sont
> plus autorisés ?
> > Amicalement
> > Voici le mail de la part de Mehdi l'admin du
> projet, il contient
> > l'explication:
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: <jmehdi at ubuntume.com>
> > Date: 2009/1/21
> > Subject: [UbuntuME] [Fwd: Re: Ubuntu Muslim
> Edition]
> > To: ubuntume.team at lists.launchpad.net
> > Cc: ubuntume at googlegroups.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Canonical contacted us last may, but the
> email was sent to Rashid, and
> > either he didn't get it or didn't forward
> it :(
> >
> > so let's go for a new name!
> >
> > Mehdi
> >
> >
> > ----- Forwarded message from
> michelle at canonical.com -----
> > Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:42:34 +0000
> > From: Michelle Surtees-Myers
> <michelle at canonical.com>
> > Reply-To: Michelle Surtees-Myers
> <michelle at canonical.com>
> > Subject: [Fwd: Re: Ubuntu Muslim Edition]
> > To: jmehdi at ubuntume.com
> >
> > Dear Mehdi,
> >
> > Thank you for contacting us.
> >
> > I have attached below the original response
> I sent to a member of your
> > team with regard to the request to use
> Ubuntu Muslim Edition. I got
> > this name from your website.
> >
> > As you can see, my email was sent in May
> 2008.
> >
> > Unfortunately we cannot allow you to use
> Ubuntu Muslim Edition. The
> > word
> > Edition has a very specific meaning for the
> Ubuntu project and we do
> > not
> > allow different projects to refer to
> editions.
> >
> > The attached email outlines our position in
> more detail.
> >
> > I am sorry for any work that you will have
> to do to change the name,
> > but
> > as I said, I did write to you last year
> about this.
> >
> > I trust that you understand our position in
> this regard.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Michelle
> >
> >
> >
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: Re: Ubuntu Muslim Edition
> > Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 12:41:26 +0100
> > From: Michelle Surtees-Myers
> <michelle at canonical.com>
> > To: rashid786 at gmail.com
> > CC: Jeroen Vermeulen <jtv at canonical.com>
> > References:
> <47FB5BD1.2050009 at canonical.com>
> >
> >
> >
> > To whom it may concern,
> >
> > I hope that I am contacting the right person
> in this regard, but if
> > not,
> > please let me know who I should contact. I
> work as part of the
> > Trademark
> > team at Canonical.
> >
> > While we greatly appreciate your enthusiasm
> for Ubuntu, and appreciate
> > the time and effort you devote to the
> project, I'm afraid there are
> > trademark related issues with your project.
> We've tried to define a
> > reasonable trademark policy that allows
> people to customise Ubuntu,
> > and
> > use the marks to promote the project, while
> at the same preserving the
> > integrity of the marks. In case you haven't
> seen it, that policy is
> > at
> >
> >
> http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
> >
> > There are trademark issues with the Ubuntu
> Muslim Edition and to the
> > url
> > ubuntume.
> >
> > In terms of our trademark policy, we do not
> allow the use of the word
> > Edition. Edition is a special word in the
> Ubuntu project and calling
> > something an Edition implies that this is
> part of the Ubuntu project,
> > which is not the case and is therefore
> misleading. We certainly
> > encourage people to make custom versions of
> Ubuntu, and we have
> > established the "remix" concept and
> terminology to allow use of the
> > trademark if the changes are minimal or
> include only software from the
> > Ubuntu repositories.
> >
> > We also do not allow the use of Ubuntu in a
> url as again this implies
> > an
> > official link to the Ubuntu project which is
> misleading. In this case
> > there is an obvious clash with our own UME,
> which is confusing.
> >
> > Again, I'd like to stress that we appreciate
> your enthusiasm for
> > Ubuntu,
> > and that the basic activities of what you
> are doing is fine - it's one
> > of the freedoms and powers provided by open
> source software. But I'm
> > afraid that using the Ubuntu name and logo
> (in product name, on
> > website,
> > etc) to refer to your own product/project
> simply doesn't work and
> > needs
> > to be changed.
> >
> > Please let me know if you have any
> questions.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> >
> > Michelle
> >
> > --
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Michelle Surtees-Myers
> > Canonical UK Ltd
> > Tel: +44 207 630 2474 Fax: +44 207 630
> 2401
> >
> > Ubuntu - Linux for human beings
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Michelle Surtees-Myers
> > Canonical UK Ltd
> > Tel: +44 207 630 2474 Fax: +44 207 630
> 2401
> >
> > Ubuntu - Linux for human beings
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- End forwarded message -----
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2009/3/16 Abdelmonam Kouka
> <abdelmonam.kouka at gmail.com>:
> >
< < > السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته،
> > >
> > > (English version is below, forward
> the information please)
> > >
< < > منذ أكثر من شهر ونصف (تحديدا في 21
< جانفي 2009)
< < أرسلت Canonical رسالة email
< < > إلى فريق النسخة الإسلامية لأوبونتو
< تطلب فيها تغيير اسم
< < التوزيعة واسم النطاق
< < > لأنها تتعارض مع سياسة العلامات
< التجارية التي وضعتها:
> > >
> > > “We've tried to define a
> reasonable trademark policy that
> > allows people to
> > > customise Ubuntu, and
> > >
> > > use the marks to promote the
> project, while at the same
> > preserving the
> > > integrity of the marks.”
> > >
< < > عندها قام الفريق باتخاذ الخطوات
< التالية:
> > >
< < > 1) تبادل الأفكار ، والبحث عن
< الأسماء التي لم يسبق استخدامها
> > >
< < > 2) التصويت
> > >
< < > وبعد اختيار التسمية الجديدة انطلقت
< المرحلة الثالثة:
> > >
< < > 3) العمل على تحديث جميع النصوص
< والصور
> > >
< < > و الآن، يسرّ فريق النسخة الإسلامية
< لأوبونتو أن يعلن لكم على
< < بركة الله الإسم
< < > الجديد للتوزيعة ألا وهو: "سبيلي".
< وسيكون الشعار الجديد:
> > >
< < > (قل هذه سبيلي أدعو إلى الله على
< بصيرة أنا ومن اتبعني)
> > >
< < > -وهو الجزء الأول من الآية 108 من
< سورة يوسف-
> > >
< < > نرجو من كافة الأخوة والأخوات تمرير
< المعلومة، كما نرجو من كل
< < من يرى في نفسه
< < > القدرة على مد يد المساعدة في
< التطوير (تطوير البرامج
< < الإسلامية أو تصميمات
< < > الجرافيكس)، أو من له أفكار جديدة
< للتوزيعة أن لا يتردد في
< < الإتصال بنا عن
< < > طريق:
> > >
< < > * المجموعة البريدية للمساعدة
< التقنية الخاصة بالمشروع:
> > >
> > >
> http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntume?hl=en&pli=1
> > >
< < > * المجموعة البريدية الخاصة
< بالتطوير:
> > >
> > > https://launchpad.net/sabily
> > >
< < > لمزيد من المعلومات حول المشروع
< الرجاء زيارة موقع الواب الخاص
< < به:
> > >
> > > http://www.ubuntume.com/
> > >
> > > Assalamo alaykom wa rahmato Allah
> wa baraketoh,
> > >
> > > For more than a month and a half
> (specifically, on 21
> > January 2009)
> > > Canonical sent an email to the
> Ubuntu Muslim Edition team
> > requesting to
> > > change the project name and the
> URL of the web site because
> > they are
> > > inconsistent with its trademark
> policy:
> > > “We've tried to define a
> reasonable trademark policy that
> > allows people to
> > > customise Ubuntu, and
> > > use the marks to promote the
> project, while at the same
> > preserving the
> > > integrity of the marks.”
> > >
> > > So, the team took the following
> steps:
> > > 1) brainstorming, finding names
> which are not already used
> > > 2) voting
> > > And after the selection of the new
> name, launched the third
> > phase:
> > >
> > > 3) working on updating all text
> and pictures
> > >
> > > And now, the Ubuntu Muslim Edition
> team is pleased to
> > announce the new name
> > > of the distro:
> > >
< < > "سبيلي" == "my way."
> > >
> > > The new slogan will be:
> > >
< < > (قل هذه سبيلي أدعو إلى الله على
< بصيرة أنا ومن اتبعني)
> > >
> > > which means "This is my way; I
> invite unto Allah with sure
> > knowledge, I and
> > > whosoever follows me..."
> > > -It is the first part of the verse
> 108 from Surat Yusuf-
> > >
> > > We ask all brothers and sisters to
> forward this information,
> > and we hope to
> > > receive your help in the
> development of the project (the
> > development of
> > > Islamic software and/or graphics
> design), or by giving new
> > ideas for the
> > > distro. Please don't hesitate to
> contact us via:
> > > * Technical support mailing list
> for the project:
> > >
> http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntume?hl=en&pli=1
> > > * Development mailing list:
> > > https://launchpad.net/sabily
> > >
> > > For more information about the
> project please visit the Web
> > site:
> > >
> > > http://www.ubuntume.com/
> > >
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