New Project name of Ubuntu Muslim Edition

A.B. mdih at free.Fr
Mer 18 Mar 07:10:42 UTC 2009


salam
wallahi dommage moi ubuntu satanic edition le nom il me fait bien rire.
Comme si le diable il allait sortir de l'ordinateur!
Le mardi 17 mars 2009 à 22:47 +0100, AtomCell a écrit :
> salam
> je suppose donc que les editions suivantes ont disparu?
> Ubuntu Christian Edition
> Ubuntu Satanic Edition
> Buddhabuntu
> Merci
> 
> 2009/3/17 Abdelmonam Kouka <abdelmonam.kouka at gmail.com>
>         Un autre point..dans les future banners inchalla on va mettre
>         sous le nom du distro une phrase genre "ubuntu for Muslims" or
>         "Linux for Muslims" as a description but not as a name or a
>         part of the name; this will eliminate the confusion.
>         
>         Salem
>         
>         2009/3/17 Abdelmonam Kouka <abdelmonam.kouka at gmail.com>
>         
>         
>                 Wa alaykom assalem,
>                 
>                 Merci pour les remarques sauf que le vote a été fait
>                 depuis un mois :) en plus l'utilisation du mot
>                 "ubuntu" en soit même pose un probleme chez canonical.
>                 
>                 Une autre bonne nouvelle: coté africain le mot
>                 "Sabili" en language Swahili veut dire "Free" :) donc
>                 3asfourin ib7ajra wa7da :D
>                 
>                 2009/3/17 A.B. <mdih at free.fr>
>                 
>                 
>                         Salam,
>                         
>                         Je pense que l'appeler Ubuntu Me Sabili est
>                         une bonne idée car c'est un
>                         nom qui est chargé de sens. Cependant pour
>                         l'utilisateur non averti, il
>                         ne comprendra pas s'il est indien ou
>                         indonésien (la majorité des
>                         mususlmans ne sont pas arabophones). Cela dit
>                         cela pourra l'inciter à
>                         aller se renseigner. C'est pourquoi je propose
>                         de l'appeler Ubuntu
>                         Muslim Release (c'est la meme chose Edition ss
>                         qu'on dise Edition, on
>                         comprend tout de suite, c'est en anglais ce
>                         qui est clair) et de mettre
>                         comme slogan  أقرou أقرأ باسم ربك
>                         ce qui permet d'insister sur l'idée de savoir
>                         et de connaissance qui est
>                         très importante dans le logiciel libre et dans
>                         ubuntu. La aya de sourate
>                         youssef, elle est sympa mais elle donne
>                         l'impression que l'utilisateur
>                         d'ubuntu est isolé et qu'il prêche dans le
>                         désert.
>                         
>                         On peut aussi l'appeler Ubuntu Sabili et
>                         mettre en sous titre the ubuntu
>                         muslim release ce qui incite les gens à savoir
>                         ce que veut dire sabili
>                         et en terme de reconnaissance et d'image de
>                         marque est très clair et
>                         explicite.
>                         
>                         Mabrouk pour le mariage
>                         A+
>                         
>                         Mdih
>                         Le lundi 16 mars 2009 à 21:43 +0100,
>                         Abdelmonam Kouka a écrit :
>                         
>                         > 2009/3/16 Nizar Kerkeni
>                         <nizar.kerkeni at gmail.com>
>                         >         Bonjour,
>                         >         Qu'est ce qu'il y a eu comme
>                         changement dans la politique de
>                         >         canonical
>                         >         pour que des noms comme ça ne sont
>                         plus autorisés ?
>                         >         Amicalement
>                         > Voici le mail de la part de Mehdi l'admin du
>                         projet, il contient
>                         > l'explication:
>                         >
>                         >
>                         > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>                         > From: <jmehdi at ubuntume.com>
>                         > Date: 2009/1/21
>                         > Subject: [UbuntuME] [Fwd: Re: Ubuntu Muslim
>                         Edition]
>                         > To: ubuntume.team at lists.launchpad.net
>                         > Cc: ubuntume at googlegroups.com
>                         >
>                         >
>                         >
>                         > Canonical contacted us last may, but the
>                         email was sent to Rashid, and
>                         > either he didn't get it or didn't forward
>                         it  :(
>                         >
>                         > so let's go for a new name!
>                         >
>                         > Mehdi
>                         >
>                         >
>                         > ----- Forwarded message from
>                         michelle at canonical.com -----
>                         >    Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:42:34 +0000
>                         >    From: Michelle Surtees-Myers
>                         <michelle at canonical.com>
>                         > Reply-To: Michelle Surtees-Myers
>                         <michelle at canonical.com>
>                         >  Subject: [Fwd: Re: Ubuntu Muslim Edition]
>                         >      To: jmehdi at ubuntume.com
>                         >
>                         > Dear Mehdi,
>                         >
>                         > Thank you for contacting us.
>                         >
>                         > I have attached below the original response
>                         I sent to a member of your
>                         > team with regard to the request to use
>                         Ubuntu Muslim Edition.  I got
>                         > this name from your website.
>                         >
>                         > As you can see, my email was sent in May
>                         2008.
>                         >
>                         > Unfortunately we cannot allow you to use
>                         Ubuntu Muslim Edition. The
>                         > word
>                         > Edition has a very specific meaning for the
>                         Ubuntu project and we do
>                         > not
>                         > allow different projects to refer to
>                         editions.
>                         >
>                         > The attached email outlines our position in
>                         more detail.
>                         >
>                         > I am sorry for any work that you will have
>                         to do to change the name,
>                         > but
>                         > as I said, I did write to you last year
>                         about this.
>                         >
>                         > I trust that you understand our position in
>                         this regard.
>                         >
>                         > Kind regards,
>                         >
>                         > Michelle
>                         >
>                         >
>                         >
>                         > -------- Original Message --------
>                         > Subject:        Re: Ubuntu Muslim Edition
>                         > Date:   Thu, 01 May 2008 12:41:26 +0100
>                         > From:   Michelle Surtees-Myers
>                         <michelle at canonical.com>
>                         > To:     rashid786 at gmail.com
>                         > CC:     Jeroen Vermeulen <jtv at canonical.com>
>                         > References:
>                         <47FB5BD1.2050009 at canonical.com>
>                         >
>                         >
>                         >
>                         > To whom it may concern,
>                         >
>                         > I hope that I am contacting the right person
>                         in this regard, but if
>                         > not,
>                         > please let me know who I should contact. I
>                         work as part of the
>                         > Trademark
>                         > team at Canonical.
>                         >
>                         > While we greatly appreciate your enthusiasm
>                         for Ubuntu, and appreciate
>                         > the time and effort you devote to the
>                         project, I'm afraid there are
>                         > trademark related issues with your project.
>                         We've tried to define a
>                         > reasonable trademark policy that allows
>                         people to customise Ubuntu,
>                         > and
>                         > use the marks to promote the project, while
>                         at the same preserving the
>                         > integrity of the marks.  In case you haven't
>                         seen it, that policy is
>                         > at
>                         >
>                         >
>                          http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
>                         >
>                         > There are trademark issues with the Ubuntu
>                         Muslim Edition and to the
>                         > url
>                         > ubuntume.
>                         >
>                         > In terms of our trademark policy, we do not
>                         allow the use of the word
>                         > Edition. Edition is a special word in the
>                         Ubuntu project and calling
>                         > something an Edition implies that this is
>                         part of the Ubuntu project,
>                         > which is not the case and is therefore
>                         misleading.  We certainly
>                         > encourage people to make custom versions of
>                         Ubuntu, and we have
>                         > established the "remix" concept and
>                         terminology to allow use of the
>                         > trademark if the changes are minimal or
>                         include only software from the
>                         > Ubuntu repositories.
>                         >
>                         > We also do not allow the use of Ubuntu in a
>                         url as again this implies
>                         > an
>                         > official link to the Ubuntu project which is
>                         misleading. In this case
>                         > there is an obvious clash with our own UME,
>                         which is confusing.
>                         >
>                         > Again, I'd like to stress that we appreciate
>                         your enthusiasm for
>                         > Ubuntu,
>                         > and that the basic activities of what you
>                         are doing is fine - it's one
>                         > of the freedoms and powers provided by open
>                         source software.  But I'm
>                         > afraid that using the Ubuntu name and logo
>                         (in product name, on
>                         > website,
>                         > etc) to refer to your own product/project
>                         simply doesn't work and
>                         > needs
>                         > to be changed.
>                         >
>                         > Please let me know if you have any
>                         questions.
>                         >
>                         > Kind regards,
>                         >
>                         >
>                         > Michelle
>                         >
>                         > --
>                         > Kind regards
>                         >
>                         > Michelle Surtees-Myers
>                         > Canonical UK Ltd
>                         > Tel: +44 207 630 2474   Fax: +44 207 630
>                         2401
>                         >
>                         > Ubuntu - Linux for human beings
>                         >
>                         >
>                         >
>                         >
>                         > --
>                         > Kind regards
>                         >
>                         > Michelle Surtees-Myers
>                         > Canonical UK Ltd
>                         > Tel: +44 207 630 2474   Fax: +44 207 630
>                         2401
>                         >
>                         > Ubuntu - Linux for human beings
>                         >
>                         >
>                         >
>                         > ----- End forwarded message -----
>                         >
>                         >
>                         >
>                         >
>                         >
>                         >
>                         >
>                         >
>                         >
>                         >         2009/3/16 Abdelmonam Kouka
>                         <abdelmonam.kouka at gmail.com>:
>                         >
 <                         <        > السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته،
>                         >         >
>                         >         > (English version is below, forward
>                         the information please)
>                         >         >
 <                         <        > منذ أكثر من شهر ونصف (تحديدا في 21
 <                        جانفي 2009)
 <                         <        أرسلت Canonical رسالة email
 <                         <        > إلى فريق النسخة الإسلامية لأوبونتو
 <                        تطلب فيها تغيير اسم
 <                         <        التوزيعة واسم النطاق
 <                         <        > لأنها تتعارض مع سياسة العلامات
 <                        التجارية التي وضعتها:
>                         >         >
>                         >         > “We've tried to define a
>                         reasonable trademark policy that
>                         >         allows people to
>                         >         > customise Ubuntu, and
>                         >         >
>                         >         > use the marks to promote the
>                         project, while at the same
>                         >         preserving the
>                         >         > integrity of the marks.”
>                         >         >
 <                         <        > عندها قام الفريق باتخاذ الخطوات
 <                        التالية:
>                         >         >
 <                         <        > 1) تبادل الأفكار ، والبحث عن
 <                        الأسماء التي لم يسبق استخدامها
>                         >         >
 <                         <        > 2) التصويت
>                         >         >
 <                         <        > وبعد اختيار التسمية الجديدة انطلقت
 <                        المرحلة الثالثة:
>                         >         >
 <                         <        > 3) العمل على تحديث جميع النصوص
 <                        والصور
>                         >         >
 <                         <        > و الآن، يسرّ فريق النسخة الإسلامية
 <                        لأوبونتو أن يعلن لكم على
 <                         <        بركة الله الإسم
 <                         <        > الجديد للتوزيعة ألا وهو: "سبيلي".
 <                        وسيكون الشعار الجديد:
>                         >         >
 <                         <        > (قل هذه سبيلي أدعو إلى الله على
 <                        بصيرة أنا ومن اتبعني)
>                         >         >
 <                         <        > -وهو الجزء الأول من الآية 108 من
 <                        سورة يوسف-
>                         >         >
 <                         <        > نرجو من كافة الأخوة والأخوات تمرير
 <                        المعلومة، كما نرجو من كل
 <                         <        من يرى في نفسه
 <                         <        > القدرة على مد يد المساعدة في
 <                        التطوير (تطوير البرامج
 <                         <        الإسلامية أو تصميمات
 <                         <        > الجرافيكس)، أو من له أفكار جديدة
 <                        للتوزيعة أن لا يتردد في
 <                         <        الإتصال بنا عن
 <                         <        > طريق:
>                         >         >
 <                         <        > * المجموعة البريدية للمساعدة
 <                        التقنية الخاصة بالمشروع:
>                         >         >
>                         >         >
>                         http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntume?hl=en&pli=1
>                         >         >
 <                         <        > * المجموعة البريدية الخاصة
 <                        بالتطوير:
>                         >         >
>                         >         > https://launchpad.net/sabily
>                         >         >
 <                         <        > لمزيد من المعلومات حول المشروع
 <                        الرجاء زيارة موقع الواب الخاص
 <                         <        به:
>                         >         >
>                         >         > http://www.ubuntume.com/
>                         >         >
>                         >         > Assalamo alaykom wa rahmato Allah
>                         wa baraketoh,
>                         >         >
>                         >         > For more than a month and a half
>                         (specifically, on 21
>                         >         January 2009)
>                         >         > Canonical sent an email to the
>                         Ubuntu Muslim Edition team
>                         >         requesting to
>                         >         > change the project name and the
>                         URL of the web site because
>                         >         they are
>                         >         > inconsistent with its trademark
>                         policy:
>                         >         > “We've tried to define a
>                         reasonable trademark policy that
>                         >         allows people to
>                         >         > customise Ubuntu, and
>                         >         > use the marks to promote the
>                         project, while at the same
>                         >         preserving the
>                         >         > integrity of the marks.”
>                         >         >
>                         >         > So, the team took the following
>                         steps:
>                         >         > 1) brainstorming, finding names
>                         which are not already used
>                         >         > 2) voting
>                         >         > And after the selection of the new
>                         name, launched the third
>                         >         phase:
>                         >         >
>                         >         > 3) working on updating all text
>                         and pictures
>                         >         >
>                         >         > And now, the Ubuntu Muslim Edition
>                         team is pleased to
>                         >         announce the new name
>                         >         > of the distro:
>                         >         >
 <                         <        > "سبيلي" == "my way."
>                         >         >
>                         >         > The new slogan will be:
>                         >         >
 <                         <        > (قل هذه سبيلي أدعو إلى الله على
 <                        بصيرة أنا ومن اتبعني)
>                         >         >
>                         >         > which means "This is my way; I
>                         invite unto Allah with sure
>                         >         knowledge, I and
>                         >         > whosoever follows me..."
>                         >         > -It is the first part of the verse
>                         108 from Surat Yusuf-
>                         >         >
>                         >         > We ask all brothers and sisters to
>                         forward this information,
>                         >         and we hope to
>                         >         > receive your help in the
>                         development of the project (the
>                         >         development of
>                         >         > Islamic software and/or graphics
>                         design), or by giving new
>                         >         ideas for the
>                         >         > distro. Please don't hesitate to
>                         contact us via:
>                         >         > * Technical support mailing list
>                         for the project:
>                         >         >
>                         http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntume?hl=en&pli=1
>                         >         > * Development mailing list:
>                         >         > https://launchpad.net/sabily
>                         >         >
>                         >         > For more information about the
>                         project please visit the Web
>                         >         site:
>                         >         >
>                         >         > http://www.ubuntume.com/
>                         >         >
>                         >
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