New Project name of Ubuntu Muslim Edition
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shelhatem at gmail.com
Mar 17 Mar 21:47:36 UTC 2009
salam
je suppose donc que les editions suivantes ont disparu?
Ubuntu Christian Edition
Ubuntu Satanic Edition
Buddhabuntu
Merci
2009/3/17 Abdelmonam Kouka <abdelmonam.kouka at gmail.com>
> Un autre point..dans les future banners inchalla on va mettre sous le nom
> du distro une phrase genre "ubuntu for Muslims" or "Linux for Muslims" as a
> description but not as a name or a part of the name; this will eliminate the
> confusion.
>
> Salem
>
> 2009/3/17 Abdelmonam Kouka <abdelmonam.kouka at gmail.com>
>
> Wa alaykom assalem,
>>
>> Merci pour les remarques sauf que le vote a été fait depuis un mois :) en
>> plus l'utilisation du mot "ubuntu" en soit même pose un probleme chez
>> canonical.
>>
>> Une autre bonne nouvelle: coté africain le mot "Sabili" en language
>> Swahili veut dire "Free" :) donc 3asfourin ib7ajra wa7da :D
>>
>> 2009/3/17 A.B. <mdih at free.fr>
>>
>> Salam,
>>>
>>> Je pense que l'appeler Ubuntu Me Sabili est une bonne idée car c'est un
>>> nom qui est chargé de sens. Cependant pour l'utilisateur non averti, il
>>> ne comprendra pas s'il est indien ou indonésien (la majorité des
>>> mususlmans ne sont pas arabophones). Cela dit cela pourra l'inciter à
>>> aller se renseigner. C'est pourquoi je propose de l'appeler Ubuntu
>>> Muslim Release (c'est la meme chose Edition ss qu'on dise Edition, on
>>> comprend tout de suite, c'est en anglais ce qui est clair) et de mettre
>>> comme slogan أقرou أقرأ باسم ربك
>>> ce qui permet d'insister sur l'idée de savoir et de connaissance qui est
>>> très importante dans le logiciel libre et dans ubuntu. La aya de sourate
>>> youssef, elle est sympa mais elle donne l'impression que l'utilisateur
>>> d'ubuntu est isolé et qu'il prêche dans le désert.
>>>
>>> On peut aussi l'appeler Ubuntu Sabili et mettre en sous titre the ubuntu
>>> muslim release ce qui incite les gens à savoir ce que veut dire sabili
>>> et en terme de reconnaissance et d'image de marque est très clair et
>>> explicite.
>>>
>>> Mabrouk pour le mariage
>>> A+
>>>
>>> Mdih
>>> Le lundi 16 mars 2009 à 21:43 +0100, Abdelmonam Kouka a écrit :
>>> > 2009/3/16 Nizar Kerkeni <nizar.kerkeni at gmail.com>
>>> > Bonjour,
>>> > Qu'est ce qu'il y a eu comme changement dans la politique de
>>> > canonical
>>> > pour que des noms comme ça ne sont plus autorisés ?
>>> > Amicalement
>>> > Voici le mail de la part de Mehdi l'admin du projet, il contient
>>> > l'explication:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> > From: <jmehdi at ubuntume.com>
>>> > Date: 2009/1/21
>>> > Subject: [UbuntuME] [Fwd: Re: Ubuntu Muslim Edition]
>>> > To: ubuntume.team at lists.launchpad.net
>>> > Cc: ubuntume at googlegroups.com
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Canonical contacted us last may, but the email was sent to Rashid, and
>>> > either he didn't get it or didn't forward it :(
>>> >
>>> > so let's go for a new name!
>>> >
>>> > Mehdi
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- Forwarded message from michelle at canonical.com -----
>>> > Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:42:34 +0000
>>> > From: Michelle Surtees-Myers <michelle at canonical.com>
>>> > Reply-To: Michelle Surtees-Myers <michelle at canonical.com>
>>> > Subject: [Fwd: Re: Ubuntu Muslim Edition]
>>> > To: jmehdi at ubuntume.com
>>> >
>>> > Dear Mehdi,
>>> >
>>> > Thank you for contacting us.
>>> >
>>> > I have attached below the original response I sent to a member of your
>>> > team with regard to the request to use Ubuntu Muslim Edition. I got
>>> > this name from your website.
>>> >
>>> > As you can see, my email was sent in May 2008.
>>> >
>>> > Unfortunately we cannot allow you to use Ubuntu Muslim Edition. The
>>> > word
>>> > Edition has a very specific meaning for the Ubuntu project and we do
>>> > not
>>> > allow different projects to refer to editions.
>>> >
>>> > The attached email outlines our position in more detail.
>>> >
>>> > I am sorry for any work that you will have to do to change the name,
>>> > but
>>> > as I said, I did write to you last year about this.
>>> >
>>> > I trust that you understand our position in this regard.
>>> >
>>> > Kind regards,
>>> >
>>> > Michelle
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -------- Original Message --------
>>> > Subject: Re: Ubuntu Muslim Edition
>>> > Date: Thu, 01 May 2008 12:41:26 +0100
>>> > From: Michelle Surtees-Myers <michelle at canonical.com>
>>> > To: rashid786 at gmail.com
>>> > CC: Jeroen Vermeulen <jtv at canonical.com>
>>> > References: <47FB5BD1.2050009 at canonical.com>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > To whom it may concern,
>>> >
>>> > I hope that I am contacting the right person in this regard, but if
>>> > not,
>>> > please let me know who I should contact. I work as part of the
>>> > Trademark
>>> > team at Canonical.
>>> >
>>> > While we greatly appreciate your enthusiasm for Ubuntu, and appreciate
>>> > the time and effort you devote to the project, I'm afraid there are
>>> > trademark related issues with your project. We've tried to define a
>>> > reasonable trademark policy that allows people to customise Ubuntu,
>>> > and
>>> > use the marks to promote the project, while at the same preserving the
>>> > integrity of the marks. In case you haven't seen it, that policy is
>>> > at
>>> >
>>> > http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
>>> >
>>> > There are trademark issues with the Ubuntu Muslim Edition and to the
>>> > url
>>> > ubuntume.
>>> >
>>> > In terms of our trademark policy, we do not allow the use of the word
>>> > Edition. Edition is a special word in the Ubuntu project and calling
>>> > something an Edition implies that this is part of the Ubuntu project,
>>> > which is not the case and is therefore misleading. We certainly
>>> > encourage people to make custom versions of Ubuntu, and we have
>>> > established the "remix" concept and terminology to allow use of the
>>> > trademark if the changes are minimal or include only software from the
>>> > Ubuntu repositories.
>>> >
>>> > We also do not allow the use of Ubuntu in a url as again this implies
>>> > an
>>> > official link to the Ubuntu project which is misleading. In this case
>>> > there is an obvious clash with our own UME, which is confusing.
>>> >
>>> > Again, I'd like to stress that we appreciate your enthusiasm for
>>> > Ubuntu,
>>> > and that the basic activities of what you are doing is fine - it's one
>>> > of the freedoms and powers provided by open source software. But I'm
>>> > afraid that using the Ubuntu name and logo (in product name, on
>>> > website,
>>> > etc) to refer to your own product/project simply doesn't work and
>>> > needs
>>> > to be changed.
>>> >
>>> > Please let me know if you have any questions.
>>> >
>>> > Kind regards,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Michelle
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Kind regards
>>> >
>>> > Michelle Surtees-Myers
>>> > Canonical UK Ltd
>>> > Tel: +44 207 630 2474 Fax: +44 207 630 2401
>>> >
>>> > Ubuntu - Linux for human beings
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Kind regards
>>> >
>>> > Michelle Surtees-Myers
>>> > Canonical UK Ltd
>>> > Tel: +44 207 630 2474 Fax: +44 207 630 2401
>>> >
>>> > Ubuntu - Linux for human beings
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ----- End forwarded message -----
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2009/3/16 Abdelmonam Kouka <abdelmonam.kouka at gmail.com>:
>>> >
>>> < > السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته،
>>> > >
>>> > > (English version is below, forward the information please)
>>> > >
>>> < > منذ أكثر من شهر ونصف (تحديدا في 21 جانفي 2009)
>>> < أرسلت Canonical رسالة email
>>> < > إلى فريق النسخة الإسلامية لأوبونتو تطلب فيها تغيير اسم
>>> < التوزيعة واسم النطاق
>>> < > لأنها تتعارض مع سياسة العلامات التجارية التي وضعتها:
>>> > >
>>> > > “We've tried to define a reasonable trademark policy that
>>> > allows people to
>>> > > customise Ubuntu, and
>>> > >
>>> > > use the marks to promote the project, while at the same
>>> > preserving the
>>> > > integrity of the marks.”
>>> > >
>>> < > عندها قام الفريق باتخاذ الخطوات التالية:
>>> > >
>>> < > 1) تبادل الأفكار ، والبحث عن الأسماء التي لم يسبق استخدامها
>>> > >
>>> < > 2) التصويت
>>> > >
>>> < > وبعد اختيار التسمية الجديدة انطلقت المرحلة الثالثة:
>>> > >
>>> < > 3) العمل على تحديث جميع النصوص والصور
>>> > >
>>> < > و الآن، يسرّ فريق النسخة الإسلامية لأوبونتو أن يعلن لكم على
>>> < بركة الله الإسم
>>> < > الجديد للتوزيعة ألا وهو: "سبيلي". وسيكون الشعار الجديد:
>>> > >
>>> < > (قل هذه سبيلي أدعو إلى الله على بصيرة أنا ومن اتبعني)
>>> > >
>>> < > -وهو الجزء الأول من الآية 108 من سورة يوسف-
>>> > >
>>> < > نرجو من كافة الأخوة والأخوات تمرير المعلومة، كما نرجو من كل
>>> < من يرى في نفسه
>>> < > القدرة على مد يد المساعدة في التطوير (تطوير البرامج
>>> < الإسلامية أو تصميمات
>>> < > الجرافيكس)، أو من له أفكار جديدة للتوزيعة أن لا يتردد في
>>> < الإتصال بنا عن
>>> < > طريق:
>>> > >
>>> < > * المجموعة البريدية للمساعدة التقنية الخاصة بالمشروع:
>>> > >
>>> > > http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntume?hl=en&pli=1
>>> > >
>>> < > * المجموعة البريدية الخاصة بالتطوير:
>>> > >
>>> > > https://launchpad.net/sabily
>>> > >
>>> < > لمزيد من المعلومات حول المشروع الرجاء زيارة موقع الواب الخاص
>>> < به:
>>> > >
>>> > > http://www.ubuntume.com/
>>> > >
>>> > > Assalamo alaykom wa rahmato Allah wa baraketoh,
>>> > >
>>> > > For more than a month and a half (specifically, on 21
>>> > January 2009)
>>> > > Canonical sent an email to the Ubuntu Muslim Edition team
>>> > requesting to
>>> > > change the project name and the URL of the web site because
>>> > they are
>>> > > inconsistent with its trademark policy:
>>> > > “We've tried to define a reasonable trademark policy that
>>> > allows people to
>>> > > customise Ubuntu, and
>>> > > use the marks to promote the project, while at the same
>>> > preserving the
>>> > > integrity of the marks.”
>>> > >
>>> > > So, the team took the following steps:
>>> > > 1) brainstorming, finding names which are not already used
>>> > > 2) voting
>>> > > And after the selection of the new name, launched the third
>>> > phase:
>>> > >
>>> > > 3) working on updating all text and pictures
>>> > >
>>> > > And now, the Ubuntu Muslim Edition team is pleased to
>>> > announce the new name
>>> > > of the distro:
>>> > >
>>> < > "سبيلي" == "my way."
>>> > >
>>> > > The new slogan will be:
>>> > >
>>> < > (قل هذه سبيلي أدعو إلى الله على بصيرة أنا ومن اتبعني)
>>> > >
>>> > > which means "This is my way; I invite unto Allah with sure
>>> > knowledge, I and
>>> > > whosoever follows me..."
>>> > > -It is the first part of the verse 108 from Surat Yusuf-
>>> > >
>>> > > We ask all brothers and sisters to forward this information,
>>> > and we hope to
>>> > > receive your help in the development of the project (the
>>> > development of
>>> > > Islamic software and/or graphics design), or by giving new
>>> > ideas for the
>>> > > distro. Please don't hesitate to contact us via:
>>> > > * Technical support mailing list for the project:
>>> > > http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntume?hl=en&pli=1
>>> > > * Development mailing list:
>>> > > https://launchpad.net/sabily
>>> > >
>>> > > For more information about the project please visit the Web
>>> > site:
>>> > >
>>> > > http://www.ubuntume.com/
>>> > >
>>> >
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>> Abdelmonam Kouka
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