New Project name of Ubuntu Muslim Edition

Abdelmonam Kouka abdelmonam.kouka at gmail.com
Mar 17 Mar 21:22:03 GMT 2009


Un autre point..dans les future banners inchalla on va mettre sous le nom du
distro une phrase genre "ubuntu for Muslims" or "Linux for Muslims" as a
description but not as a name or a part of the name; this will eliminate the
confusion.

Salem

2009/3/17 Abdelmonam Kouka <abdelmonam.kouka at gmail.com>

> Wa alaykom assalem,
>
> Merci pour les remarques sauf que le vote a été fait depuis un mois :) en
> plus l'utilisation du mot "ubuntu" en soit même pose un probleme chez
> canonical.
>
> Une autre bonne nouvelle: coté africain le mot "Sabili" en language Swahili
> veut dire "Free" :) donc 3asfourin ib7ajra wa7da :D
>
> 2009/3/17 A.B. <mdih at free.fr>
>
> Salam,
>>
>> Je pense que l'appeler Ubuntu Me Sabili est une bonne idée car c'est un
>> nom qui est chargé de sens. Cependant pour l'utilisateur non averti, il
>> ne comprendra pas s'il est indien ou indonésien (la majorité des
>> mususlmans ne sont pas arabophones). Cela dit cela pourra l'inciter à
>> aller se renseigner. C'est pourquoi je propose de l'appeler Ubuntu
>> Muslim Release (c'est la meme chose Edition ss qu'on dise Edition, on
>> comprend tout de suite, c'est en anglais ce qui est clair) et de mettre
>> comme slogan  أقرou أقرأ باسم ربك
>> ce qui permet d'insister sur l'idée de savoir et de connaissance qui est
>> très importante dans le logiciel libre et dans ubuntu. La aya de sourate
>> youssef, elle est sympa mais elle donne l'impression que l'utilisateur
>> d'ubuntu est isolé et qu'il prêche dans le désert.
>>
>> On peut aussi l'appeler Ubuntu Sabili et mettre en sous titre the ubuntu
>> muslim release ce qui incite les gens à savoir ce que veut dire sabili
>> et en terme de reconnaissance et d'image de marque est très clair et
>> explicite.
>>
>> Mabrouk pour le mariage
>> A+
>>
>> Mdih
>> Le lundi 16 mars 2009 à 21:43 +0100, Abdelmonam Kouka a écrit :
>> > 2009/3/16 Nizar Kerkeni <nizar.kerkeni at gmail.com>
>> >         Bonjour,
>> >         Qu'est ce qu'il y a eu comme changement dans la politique de
>> >         canonical
>> >         pour que des noms comme ça ne sont plus autorisés ?
>> >         Amicalement
>> > Voici le mail de la part de Mehdi l'admin du projet, il contient
>> > l'explication:
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> > From: <jmehdi at ubuntume.com>
>> > Date: 2009/1/21
>> > Subject: [UbuntuME] [Fwd: Re: Ubuntu Muslim Edition]
>> > To: ubuntume.team at lists.launchpad.net
>> > Cc: ubuntume at googlegroups.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Canonical contacted us last may, but the email was sent to Rashid, and
>> > either he didn't get it or didn't forward it  :(
>> >
>> > so let's go for a new name!
>> >
>> > Mehdi
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Forwarded message from michelle at canonical.com -----
>> >    Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:42:34 +0000
>> >    From: Michelle Surtees-Myers <michelle at canonical.com>
>> > Reply-To: Michelle Surtees-Myers <michelle at canonical.com>
>> >  Subject: [Fwd: Re: Ubuntu Muslim Edition]
>> >      To: jmehdi at ubuntume.com
>> >
>> > Dear Mehdi,
>> >
>> > Thank you for contacting us.
>> >
>> > I have attached below the original response I sent to a member of your
>> > team with regard to the request to use Ubuntu Muslim Edition.  I got
>> > this name from your website.
>> >
>> > As you can see, my email was sent in May 2008.
>> >
>> > Unfortunately we cannot allow you to use Ubuntu Muslim Edition. The
>> > word
>> > Edition has a very specific meaning for the Ubuntu project and we do
>> > not
>> > allow different projects to refer to editions.
>> >
>> > The attached email outlines our position in more detail.
>> >
>> > I am sorry for any work that you will have to do to change the name,
>> > but
>> > as I said, I did write to you last year about this.
>> >
>> > I trust that you understand our position in this regard.
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> >
>> > Michelle
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -------- Original Message --------
>> > Subject:        Re: Ubuntu Muslim Edition
>> > Date:   Thu, 01 May 2008 12:41:26 +0100
>> > From:   Michelle Surtees-Myers <michelle at canonical.com>
>> > To:     rashid786 at gmail.com
>> > CC:     Jeroen Vermeulen <jtv at canonical.com>
>> > References:     <47FB5BD1.2050009 at canonical.com>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > To whom it may concern,
>> >
>> > I hope that I am contacting the right person in this regard, but if
>> > not,
>> > please let me know who I should contact. I work as part of the
>> > Trademark
>> > team at Canonical.
>> >
>> > While we greatly appreciate your enthusiasm for Ubuntu, and appreciate
>> > the time and effort you devote to the project, I'm afraid there are
>> > trademark related issues with your project. We've tried to define a
>> > reasonable trademark policy that allows people to customise Ubuntu,
>> > and
>> > use the marks to promote the project, while at the same preserving the
>> > integrity of the marks.  In case you haven't seen it, that policy is
>> > at
>> >
>> >  http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
>> >
>> > There are trademark issues with the Ubuntu Muslim Edition and to the
>> > url
>> > ubuntume.
>> >
>> > In terms of our trademark policy, we do not allow the use of the word
>> > Edition. Edition is a special word in the Ubuntu project and calling
>> > something an Edition implies that this is part of the Ubuntu project,
>> > which is not the case and is therefore misleading.  We certainly
>> > encourage people to make custom versions of Ubuntu, and we have
>> > established the "remix" concept and terminology to allow use of the
>> > trademark if the changes are minimal or include only software from the
>> > Ubuntu repositories.
>> >
>> > We also do not allow the use of Ubuntu in a url as again this implies
>> > an
>> > official link to the Ubuntu project which is misleading. In this case
>> > there is an obvious clash with our own UME, which is confusing.
>> >
>> > Again, I'd like to stress that we appreciate your enthusiasm for
>> > Ubuntu,
>> > and that the basic activities of what you are doing is fine - it's one
>> > of the freedoms and powers provided by open source software.  But I'm
>> > afraid that using the Ubuntu name and logo (in product name, on
>> > website,
>> > etc) to refer to your own product/project simply doesn't work and
>> > needs
>> > to be changed.
>> >
>> > Please let me know if you have any questions.
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> >
>> >
>> > Michelle
>> >
>> > --
>> > Kind regards
>> >
>> > Michelle Surtees-Myers
>> > Canonical UK Ltd
>> > Tel: +44 207 630 2474   Fax: +44 207 630 2401
>> >
>> > Ubuntu - Linux for human beings
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Kind regards
>> >
>> > Michelle Surtees-Myers
>> > Canonical UK Ltd
>> > Tel: +44 207 630 2474   Fax: +44 207 630 2401
>> >
>> > Ubuntu - Linux for human beings
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- End forwarded message -----
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >         2009/3/16 Abdelmonam Kouka <abdelmonam.kouka at gmail.com>:
>> >
>>  <        > السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته،
>> >         >
>> >         > (English version is below, forward the information please)
>> >         >
>>  <        > منذ أكثر من شهر ونصف (تحديدا في 21 جانفي 2009)
>>  <        أرسلت Canonical رسالة email
>>  <        > إلى فريق النسخة الإسلامية لأوبونتو تطلب فيها تغيير اسم
>>  <        التوزيعة واسم النطاق
>>  <        > لأنها تتعارض مع سياسة العلامات التجارية التي وضعتها:
>> >         >
>> >         > “We've tried to define a reasonable trademark policy that
>> >         allows people to
>> >         > customise Ubuntu, and
>> >         >
>> >         > use the marks to promote the project, while at the same
>> >         preserving the
>> >         > integrity of the marks.”
>> >         >
>>  <        > عندها قام الفريق باتخاذ الخطوات التالية:
>> >         >
>>  <        > 1) تبادل الأفكار ، والبحث عن الأسماء التي لم يسبق استخدامها
>> >         >
>>  <        > 2) التصويت
>> >         >
>>  <        > وبعد اختيار التسمية الجديدة انطلقت المرحلة الثالثة:
>> >         >
>>  <        > 3) العمل على تحديث جميع النصوص والصور
>> >         >
>>  <        > و الآن، يسرّ فريق النسخة الإسلامية لأوبونتو أن يعلن لكم على
>>  <        بركة الله الإسم
>>  <        > الجديد للتوزيعة ألا وهو: "سبيلي". وسيكون الشعار الجديد:
>> >         >
>>  <        > (قل هذه سبيلي أدعو إلى الله على بصيرة أنا ومن اتبعني)
>> >         >
>>  <        > -وهو الجزء الأول من الآية 108 من سورة يوسف-
>> >         >
>>  <        > نرجو من كافة الأخوة والأخوات تمرير المعلومة، كما نرجو من كل
>>  <        من يرى في نفسه
>>  <        > القدرة على مد يد المساعدة في التطوير (تطوير البرامج
>>  <        الإسلامية أو تصميمات
>>  <        > الجرافيكس)، أو من له أفكار جديدة للتوزيعة أن لا يتردد في
>>  <        الإتصال بنا عن
>>  <        > طريق:
>> >         >
>>  <        > * المجموعة البريدية للمساعدة التقنية الخاصة بالمشروع:
>> >         >
>> >         > http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntume?hl=en&pli=1
>> >         >
>>  <        > * المجموعة البريدية الخاصة بالتطوير:
>> >         >
>> >         > https://launchpad.net/sabily
>> >         >
>>  <        > لمزيد من المعلومات حول المشروع الرجاء زيارة موقع الواب الخاص
>>  <        به:
>> >         >
>> >         > http://www.ubuntume.com/
>> >         >
>> >         > Assalamo alaykom wa rahmato Allah wa baraketoh,
>> >         >
>> >         > For more than a month and a half (specifically, on 21
>> >         January 2009)
>> >         > Canonical sent an email to the Ubuntu Muslim Edition team
>> >         requesting to
>> >         > change the project name and the URL of the web site because
>> >         they are
>> >         > inconsistent with its trademark policy:
>> >         > “We've tried to define a reasonable trademark policy that
>> >         allows people to
>> >         > customise Ubuntu, and
>> >         > use the marks to promote the project, while at the same
>> >         preserving the
>> >         > integrity of the marks.”
>> >         >
>> >         > So, the team took the following steps:
>> >         > 1) brainstorming, finding names which are not already used
>> >         > 2) voting
>> >         > And after the selection of the new name, launched the third
>> >         phase:
>> >         >
>> >         > 3) working on updating all text and pictures
>> >         >
>> >         > And now, the Ubuntu Muslim Edition team is pleased to
>> >         announce the new name
>> >         > of the distro:
>> >         >
>>  <        > "سبيلي" == "my way."
>> >         >
>> >         > The new slogan will be:
>> >         >
>>  <        > (قل هذه سبيلي أدعو إلى الله على بصيرة أنا ومن اتبعني)
>> >         >
>> >         > which means "This is my way; I invite unto Allah with sure
>> >         knowledge, I and
>> >         > whosoever follows me..."
>> >         > -It is the first part of the verse 108 from Surat Yusuf-
>> >         >
>> >         > We ask all brothers and sisters to forward this information,
>> >         and we hope to
>> >         > receive your help in the development of the project (the
>> >         development of
>> >         > Islamic software and/or graphics design), or by giving new
>> >         ideas for the
>> >         > distro. Please don't hesitate to contact us via:
>> >         > * Technical support mailing list for the project:
>> >         > http://groups.google.com/group/ubuntume?hl=en&pli=1
>> >         > * Development mailing list:
>> >         > https://launchpad.net/sabily
>> >         >
>> >         > For more information about the project please visit the Web
>> >         site:
>> >         >
>> >         > http://www.ubuntume.com/
>> >         >
>> >
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>> > Abdelmonam Kouka
>> > Software Engineer
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