[Bug 304889] Re: Does not use system proxy settings

[Felipe Contreras]

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Guillaume Desmottes <gdesmott at gnome.org> wrote:
> Le mercredi 30 novembre 2011 à 15:55 +0000, Felipe Contreras a écrit :
>> * telepathy-haze
>>
>> This works fine.
>
> Stop claiming that switching to Haze is the solution of all the world's
> problems. Haze can be an option for protocols not having a proper CM but
> it would be completely stupid to switch to it for XMPP: no call, no file
> transfer, no muc, no desktop sharing...

Being able to log in is more important than anything else.

>> * telepathy-butterfly
>>
>> It uses papyon, which looks like it's going to be discontinued. It has
>> basic proxy support, but it's not done through GIO, as it probably
>> should be.
>
> I agree that Haze could be used. Actually we're going to switch to Haze
> for MSN accounts in 3.4 as butterfly (and the other Python CMs) are not
> properly maintained and lake all the recent Telepathy APIs.

Makes sense.

>> * telepathy-gabble
>>
>> Seems to have proxy support  through GIO, but there are issues.
>
> Which issues exactly? Are there in Gabble? in GIO?

All the issues related to libproxy for starters, like not being able
to get a popper configuration with GNOME 2, and thus all the DE's that
already rely on those GConf settings, like Xfce. And all the issues
related to GNOME 3 configuration, like the fact that all
authentication is missing.

Plus, in my machine, even with GNOME 3's control center it's confusing
what should be the settings, and even when I put exactly the right
settings, it takes a long long time to log in.

>> * telepathy-idle
>>
>> No proxy support on the horizon.
>
> Idle has switched to GIO (fdo #37145) so SHOULD be at the same state as
> Gabble.

Yes, many things should be in certain way *in theory*, but then why is
fdo #12376 still open? Because nobody has actually tried *in
practice*.

Here, let me try... Nope... doesn't work. What a surprise.

>> * telepathy-rakia
>>
>> No proxy support on the horizon.  Or bug report about it.
>
> Please feel free to open one.

Why would I do that? As I stated multiple times, this is not *needed*
to solve the issue at hand.

You can disagree all you want with me, but the fact of the matter is
that after more than 3 years this bug has existed, the issue remains
there, and users are *completely* prevented to use Empathy.

This is the problem going the GNOME way of trying to have everything
perfectly. When is that going to happen? 2020?

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Felipe Contreras

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