[Bug 274820] Re: Sugar feature freeze exception

[Morgan Collett]

Hi Jonas

On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 16:20, Jonas Smedegaard <dr at jones.dk> wrote:
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> On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 01:54:44PM -0000, Jani Monoses wrote:
>>While I unfortunately do not have time for sugar packaging, a sync from
>>Debian would be beneficial so we're in line with them and current
>>upstream. Morgan may not be an uploader he is involved in upstream
>>Sugar and represents their PoV, and knows better than me why these
>>changes are better than staying with current packaging.
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>>I will sponsor any debdiff they produce to fix up possible divergences
>>with Debian packaging.
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>>Morgan if there are extra Conflicts or Replaces fields to be added do
>>you think Debian devs can be asked to add them even though they mention
>>Ubuntu only packages?
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> Hi, I maintain the Sugar packages for Debian. I am also subscribed here
> (but may not notice all traffic, so feel free to cc as needed)
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> I dislike "unofficial" (read: non-Debian) dependencies cluttering the
> official Debian packages. This is not to "annoy Ubuntu" - I apply same
> rules to my own non-Debian rereleasing of some packages. It is simply
> that I want the package maintainance to be as simple as possible.
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> (this does not imply that I wnat the whole packaging simplest possible -
> and indeed the Sugar packages are relatively complex in other aspects
> than common maintainance tasks)
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> Is it a problem to maintain Ubuntu-specific Conflicts and Replaces in a
> Ubuntu-only patch? And if so, is the problem technical or political?

We're in feature freeze in Ubuntu and are motivating for a feature
freeze exception to update the Sugar packaging, which we unfortunately
did not get done yet. Since we don't have uploaders in the team,
figuring out the minimum work for us to get up to 0.82.x will help the
chances of that feature freeze exception being granted.

What would definitely help us (and Debian) is to get up to date with
the Sugar stable releases. Since the 0.82.0 release was announced,
there was an 0.82.1 point release, and then also individual releases
of components and activities as the OLPC QA cycle seriously got going.
These were announced on the Sugar list.

I've listed the packages and versions available on
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SugarTeam/Packages - take a look there which
packages have newer upstream stable packages. (0.82.x is stable,
0.83.x will be development leading to an 0.84.x release in March 09
(http://sugarlabs.org/go/ReleaseTeam/Roadmap). Can you get these
updated in sid in the near future?

Regards
Morgan