<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Dear Sir: </div>As I explained in my first reply to you, I suggest that you install and use the Synaptic Package Manager. With it you can install anything that you could have installed from the Software Centre had that program worked on your computer. You could then completely ignore the troublesome Software Centre program. </div>To Ralf: </div>The reason I gave the instructions I did was because the OP stated that he is not comfortable with the command line and I wanted to keep things as easy as possible for him. The older commands still work and they do so without any exceptions. </div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 8:43 AM, AURO KUMAR SAHOO <<a href="mailto:aksahoo.barc@gmail.com" target="_blank">aksahoo.barc@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Thanks community for such nice response. I install fresh Ubuntu studio 16.04.1. During install I choose to use 3rd party plugins and Update. After install complete i Update all again including language . Now I open software centre to install vlc. But to my surprise it opens and closes automatically and ask me to send error report, which I send. Logout and login again and open software centre again but now it opens and in closes all of suddenly and it persists till now. I had clean installed many times like 12.04, 14.04 but it is first time I see Ubuntu behave like Microsoft Windows. I even re-download hoping there may be some error in download but 2nd time same. I had used 16.04 Ubuntu studio on the sama machine. Don't know why its coming. I am a cinematographer and I use Ubuntu studio in home for some multimedia creation and videography. That's why I had less knowledge about command line. But I love Ubuntu studio for its simple non Linux user friendly approach. So I may try to learn but not sure, till then pls help me. Thanks again community for support Regards. <div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On 18 Nov 2016 5:31 p.m., <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-studio-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send ubuntu-studio-users mailing list submissions to <a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-studio-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a> You can reach the person managing the list at <a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-users-owner@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-studio-users-owner@lists.ubuntu.com</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-studio-users digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Software centre not working and crashes (Lawrence H. Bulk) 2. Re: Software centre not working and crashes (Ralf Mardorf) 3. Re: Software centre not working and crashes (Lawrence H. Bulk) 4. Why recommending apt-get is obsolet - Re: Software centre not working and crashes (Ralf Mardorf) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 10:09:35 -0500 From: "Lawrence H. Bulk" <<a href="mailto:lhbcomm@gmail.com" target="_blank">lhbcomm@gmail.com</a>> To: Ubuntu Studio Users <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Software centre not working and crashes Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:CAC1vDTx227diy6-x_AYH5GLPBZ7vYRGG7x5P%2Bw3yAe_iOgjbNQ@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">CAC1vDTx227diy6-x_AYH5GLPBZ7vYRGG7x5P+w3yAe_iOgjbNQ@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I can appreciate the fact that you are not comfortable with the command line. But try this: Open the Terminal Type (or, preferably, copy) the following: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo update-manager This will update the computer. I use these commands to check for updates every day (The update-manager will let you know if the computer must be rebooted.) If computer did not need to be rebooted, type the following: sudo apt-get install synaptic (If the computer needed to be rebooted, just do so and then open the Terminal again and type the Synaptic Package Manager installation command.) You can install anything you want from the Synaptic Package Manager which, though older and not as 'pretty', actually works far better and faster than does the Software Centre. If you wish to install programs not in Synaptic you might want to install the gdebi program (sudo apt-get install gdebi) which works much better at installing such programs than does the Software Centre. Another valuable use for the command line is the ability to install extra PPAs which may contain other programs you may wish to use. Installation of these PPAs via the command line is very easy. Don't be afraid of the command line (the Terminal). I was until I discovered how easy it is to actually use. Most of the time I still use GUIs but there are times when the Terminal is better. Daily updating is one of them and sometimes installing a program is too. (To install a program via the command line you must know its EXACT name.) In almost every case the Terminal runs whatever you wish to do faster than does a GUI. At least that's been my experience. I hope that this helps you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <<a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/attachments/20161117/a384198f/attachment-0001.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-users/attachments/20161117/a384198f/attachment-0001.html</a>> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 16:52:39 +0100 From: Ralf Mardorf <<a href="mailto:ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net" target="_blank">ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net</a>> To: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Software centre not working and crashes Message-ID: <20161117165239.462c3e35@archlinux.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi, On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 10:09:35 -0500, Lawrence H. Bulk wrote: >If computer did not need to be rebooted, type the following: > >sudo apt-get install synaptic You could install synaptic, before you reboot. There usually is no reason to reboot at all. A reboot only makes sense sometimes, e.g. if you want to use a new kernel, or if the old kernel and it's modules were removed and you want to start something, that requires modules, that are not already loaded. However, you could reboot, it doesn't harm. The reason I reply is to inform you about "apt" and "gdebi from command line". >If you wish to install programs not in Synaptic you might want to >install the gdebi program (sudo apt-get install gdebi) which works >much better at installing such programs than does the Software Centre. AFAIK Synaptic can't do what gdebi could do. IIRC Synaptic can only install from repositories, while gdebi could install local packages and resolve dependencies from repositories. Local packages are downloaded packages or packages you build on your own. However, for 16.04.1 there is no need to use gdebi, since apt can do it now, too. In the past sudo dpkg -i <path/package> && sudo apt-get install -f or sudo gdebi <path/package> was needed to install a local package and resolve dependencies, nowadays apt is able to do the same. IOW there's no need to install anything, just run sudo apt install <path/package> Current versions of apt are able to install local packages and resolve dependencies. This might not work for old versions of apt, but the version provided by 16.04.1 isn't old. For new releases of Ubuntu, such as 16.04.1 sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should be replaced by sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade since apt became the new official tool for Ubuntu flavours. Help pages still mention apt-get, because at least one Ubuntu release that is still supported, doesn't provide apt. Anyway, novices don't need to learn apt-get commands, it's better thy directly learn apt commands. Regards, Ralf ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 15:58:30 -0500 From: "Lawrence H. Bulk" <<a href="mailto:lhbcomm@gmail.com" target="_blank">lhbcomm@gmail.com</a>> To: Ubuntu Studio Users <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Software centre not working and crashes Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:CAC1vDTy7hg_Ora06hyfYTr4uKQdSY0Os5j5F8uwT7yoiMZs-Cw@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">CAC1vDTy7hg_Ora06hyfYTr4uKQdSY0Os5j5F8uwT7yoiMZs-Cw@mail.gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" To Ralf: You may have misunderstood somewhat the nature and reason for my explanation to the OP. He stated that with a new UbuntuStudio installation, the Software Centre crashes. This is not the first time I have heard of such a problem (though it has never happened to me). He also stated that he was not truly comfortable using the command line. I recommended 'apt-get' because it ALWAYS works and does so on every Debian-derived distribution of which I am aware. (I use 'apt' myself on my own UbuntuStudio machine.) I explained that, after he updates via the command line that he ALSO run the Update Manager. The command line does not tell you when it is necessary to reboot and I do not know how frequently or when the OP last updated his installation. If it has been a while, a reboot is probably in order. But the Update Manager will let him know for sure if it's necessary or not. Frankly I do this myself every day because my computer updates much faster using the Terminal than it does with the Update Manager or Synaptic. Perhaps I did not make myself clear: Synaptic (which, in my opinion, is far superior to that hopeless Software Centre) can only install programs which are in whatever repositories are currently activated on his computer. And, if his Software Centre is somehow corrupted, he needs Synaptic in order to install new programs. Gdebi installs downloaded (locally stored) .deb programs and does so much better than does the Software Centre. Such programs are now not often used as many (most?) of them now have their own PPAs, for example, the VLC Nightly Builds. But I feel that it's still useful to have gdebi installed and I wanted to help the OP to become a little more familiar with the command line. I hope that this clarifies things and is helpful to the OP. On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 10:52 AM, Ralf Mardorf <<a href="mailto:ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net" target="_blank">ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net</a>> wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 10:09:35 -0500, Lawrence H. Bulk wrote: > >If computer did not need to be rebooted, type the following: > > > >sudo apt-get install synaptic > > You could install synaptic, before you reboot. There usually is no > reason to reboot at all. A reboot only makes sense sometimes, e.g. if > you want to use a new kernel, or if the old kernel and it's modules were > removed and you want to start something, that requires modules, that are > not already loaded. However, you could reboot, it doesn't harm. > > The reason I reply is to inform you about "apt" and "gdebi from command > line". > > >If you wish to install programs not in Synaptic you might want to > >install the gdebi program (sudo apt-get install gdebi) which works > >much better at installing such programs than does the Software Centre. > > AFAIK Synaptic can't do what gdebi could do. IIRC Synaptic can only > install from repositories, while gdebi could install local packages and > resolve dependencies from repositories. Local packages are downloaded > packages or packages you build on your own. However, for 16.04.1 there > is no need to use gdebi, since apt can do it now, too. > > In the past > > sudo dpkg -i <path/package> && sudo apt-get install -f > > or > > sudo gdebi <path/package> > > was needed to install a local package and resolve dependencies, > nowadays apt is able to do the same. IOW there's no need to install > anything, just run > > sudo apt install <path/package> > > Current versions of apt are able to install local packages and resolve > dependencies. This might not work for old versions of apt, but the > version provided by 16.04.1 isn't old. > > For new releases of Ubuntu, such as 16.04.1 > > sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade > > should be replaced by > > sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade > > since apt became the new official tool for Ubuntu flavours. Help pages > still mention apt-get, because at least one Ubuntu release that is > still supported, doesn't provide apt. Anyway, novices don't need to > learn apt-get commands, it's better thy directly learn apt commands. > > Regards, > Ralf > > -- > ubuntu-studio-users mailing list > <a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/</a> > mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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For scripts and very old Ubuntu releases it remains to be apt-get. My information is not related to the GUIs. In regards to reboots, it never is necessary to reboot, it just is required, if a user wants to use e.g. an upgraded kernel, but actually it's possible to continue using an old kernel, even if it was purged, it's still in the memory. In short, yes, command line doesn't inform if you need to reboot, simply because there is no need to reboot. If a user expects new features that aren't available, then it's a general troubleshooting rule to reboot. Without rebooting nothing evil could happen. There are reasons why Ubuntu migrated to apt and why we should start to explain novices how to use apt, instead of apt-get. Apart from eye-candy, there's one important apt default setting that differs to the default setting of apt-get. By default apt doesn't keep packages in cache. It's possible to change the default settings for apt as well as apt-get, however, by default they don't share the same settings. The confusing name "dist-upgrade" was replaced by "full-upgrade". Not only gdebi is replaced by apt, also a few dpkg commands became unnecessary when using apt. Recommending apt-get, gdebi and a few dpkg commands only makes sense if we don't know what release of Ubuntu is used, or if scripts should use a command with pipes and things like this. If we know that somebody does use a new release of Ubuntu Studio, it's better if Ubuntu flavour mailing lists follow common practise of Ubuntu mailing lists, this is to explain usage of apt. As soon as the last supported release not providing apt reaches end of life, the Wiki/help pages should be edited, IOW apt-get should be replaced by apt. Sure, apt-get still is safe and doesn't harm, other then the frowned upon aptitude, it's not bad to mention apt-get. The reason to prefer mentioning apt over apt-get is, that for the Ubuntu desktop and Ubuntu flavours desktop main target group apt introduced more user-friendliness. 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