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<font face="Courier 10 Pitch">Beware of "sudo", it gives you godlike
powers...<br>
<br>
the best advice I can give: If you have the resources, set up two
computers, one of them being your stable production/work/school
machine, the other being your experimental setup. Try the new
commands on the experimental machine, in case they don't work out
like you hope. Once you're comfortable with them, use them on the
production machine.<br>
<br>
Good luck!<br>
<br>
Ben</font>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 04/10/2013 10:07 AM, Pete Wright
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<div>Thanks, Andrew.<br>
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You and Alf are elevating my self-confidence to dangerous
levels.<br>
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cheers<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 7:00 AM, Andrew
Huys <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:musiek.sparta.nc@gmail.com" target="_blank">musiek.sparta.nc@gmail.com</a>></span>
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10 Pitch">"</font><font face="Courier 10 Pitch">I get
something from the repository I do not have to use
synaptic to keep it up to date?" If you use
update-manager and have automatic updates turned on, no,
you do not need to use synaptic for anything.<br>
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</font><font face="Courier 10 Pitch">However, </font><font
face="Courier 10 Pitch">Synaptic is <i>very</i> useful
when you're searching for packages to install and maybe
don't know the names (if you dislike the
software-center). Synaptic is faster on my older
machines (IBM/Lenovo T43p, etc.) than software center,
as it does not have fancy graphics, ratings, reviews,
etc. Also, being able to install multiple items just by
checking the boxes and clicking [apply] seems easier to
me than finding each individual software in software
center.<br>
<br>
As far as updating goes, I almost never use the
"update-manager" (had an issue with it at one time,
don't remember what, but stopped using it then), I find
it easier to do via command-line:<br>
<br>
sudo apt-get update<br>
Sudo apt-get upgrade<br>
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I run these about once a week (or whenever i remember)
just to keep on top of things.<br>
<br>
-AND Huys<br>
<br>
<br>
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<div>Thanks, Alf.<br>
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So, to make sure I understand you, if I get
something from the repository I do not have to
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Is Synaptic still useful in any scenario, or is it
completely irrelevant/obsolete?<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at
6:39 AM, Alf Haakon Lund <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:alf@mellomrommet.no"
target="_blank">alf@mellomrommet.no</a>></span>
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solid;padding-left:1ex">No,<br>
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Nothing updates in the background, the update
manager will always ask. It just means updates
are not taken care of by canonical's Ubuntu
team and that they may (or may not) be
provided by the community.<br>
<br>
Kind of the same way Microsoft provides
updates for IE but not for Firefox, although
the example is a bit flawed as Microsoft won't
let you download software they don't own
through their channels.<br>
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But that's the wonder of open source! Actually
the software repositories is one of my
favorites with Ubuntu. Finding and installing
programs is so simple and updates
automatically taken care of (if there are
any).<br>
<br>
Alf
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On 10. april 2013 14:52, Pete Wright
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<div> Really? Updating automatic? I knew
Ubuntu updates automatically, but many<br>
items in the Software Centre say
"Updates not provided by Ubuntu...may be<br>
provided by community" or something like
that. Are these packages/programs<br>
automagically updating themselves in the
background? Even the main Ubuntu<br>
thingy asks me before updating.<br>
<br>
<br>
On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:43 AM, Alf
Haakon Lund <<a
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<div> Not sure what you mean here
(updates not included)? Unless it's
become<br>
abandonware (no more in development),
updating should be automatically<br>
taken care of.<br>
<br>
Anyway glad to hear it was what you
looked for.<br>
<br>
Alf<br>
<br>
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<div> Thanks again, Alf<br>
Synapse aboard and seems just the
ticket.<br>
Also, after this morning's update, I
find I am now able to put my own<br>
dubious artwork on the desktop.<br>
I see Synapse updates are not
included in Ubuntu; will Synaptic
do? I run<br>
it periodically.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 4:27 AM, Pete
Wright <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:pnwright@gmail.com"
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Thanks Alf, I will try Synapse.<br>
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<div> And as to desktop pic, I think
that is what I did and it didn't
work.<br>
It's<br>
my computer, I think.<br>
<br>
<br>
On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 12:45 AM,
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href="mailto:alf@mellomrommet.no"
target="_blank">alf@mellomrommet.no</a><br>
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I don't use unity, so I might be
off target. But "heads up search"<br>
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<div> sounds<br>
like what synapse is doing for
me. It's a small app that finds
anything,<br>
files or programs. Hit
ctrl-space to launch, type a few
letters (just f<br>
and<br>
first suggestion is firefox,
first suggestion adapts to what
is most<br>
used).<br>
Navigate through suggestions
with arrows.<br>
<br>
Synapse is available in software
center and synaptic.<br>
<br>
As for changing desktop image,
for me right-click on the
desktop and<br>
choosing desktop settings gets
me there. Or [ctrl-space], [de]
and first<br>
suggestion is desktop settings.<br>
<br>
Good luck on ubuntu studio, and
never be afraid to ask!<br>
<br>
All the best,<br>
Alf<br>
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