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On 30.06.2011 19:14, Mike Holstein wrote:
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">well, i'm using ubuntu for 4
years now. but i finally have enough of it. i'm tiered of
updating a hole system after half a year. i know, that can
be helpfull, but its also annoying. and the change to
unity clearly showed me, that its going into a bad
direction, which is not any more focused on the users. in
my eyes.<br>
i probably will stay with Ubuntu studio for music
production, but for my daily work, i defenitly will change
to debian (testing). Unfortunately i'm not smart enough to
compile a real-time-kernl by myself. Thats why i have to
stay with 10.04 for my studio distro.</p>
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<div>you might want to look at something with a rolling release
(linux mint debian edition comes to mind)... personally, i run
the LTS version of ubuntu (LTS = long term support) those are
supported for 5 years, and come around every 2 years. the
latest LTS release is lucid 10.04. this means i do *not*
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yes, of course i know about the LTS. but again, i have old versions
of the software then.<br>
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<div>unity is just one of the desktop options we have with
ubuntu, if it doesnt meet your needs/wants, check out XFCE,
KDE, GNOME or LXDE (or any of the other options)... this is
however the ubuntustudio mailing list, and we are not planning
on shipping the unity DE as default anytime soon, so you may
want redirect your valid critiques of the unity desktop to the
ubuntu desktop team mailing list <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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i know. and i realy like the idea of Ubuntu studio with xfce. I just
think, the unity-thing shows, what ubuntu is going to be. and i just
don't know, if thats the right thing for a studio distro<br>
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<div>we have several PPA contributors for -realtime kernel
options. very soon we will not need a different kernel for
these tasks. here is the official word from the debian
multimedia team about realtime kernels, and the lack of one
for debian (source <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>"The Debian Multimedia team is not working on including a
kernel image with the realtime-patches applied in Debian. Much
of the realtime-patches have been accepted in the mainline
kernel, to the point that for most purposes the stock Debian
kernel is suitable even for realtime-like work."</div>
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<div>if you end up using debian, i have heard good things about
the liquorix kernel <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://liquorix.net/">http://liquorix.net/</a> , but
AFAIK the distro AVlinux has a custom RT kernel that is
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cheers. i check that out.<br>
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<div>all of that being said, you can feel free to get involved
in any area of ubuntu (ubuntustudio for example) and help
guide it in the direction you feel it should go. if that seems
like to much to take on, all of this software is open and
freely available.. you can always make your own distro with
whatever desktop environment, and whatever kernel, and
whatever packages you want. AND, you can email this list with
links to where to download and check it out...</div>
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yes i know. but i am just a stupid user. i have no idea of
programming. I only love the idea of a free
music-production-central. and don't get me wrong. i am sure, the
US-development team is making the right decisions after all.<br>
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woob on!<br>
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On 30.06.2011 12:14, Ricardo Lameiro wrote:
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<pre>Well, ubuntu is based on debian, most of the pacakages used by
ubuntustudio come directly from debian syncs.
Bear in mind that making a distro is hard and needs a lot of
development time and effort.
Also, I dont think that UbuntuStudio will change to debian as its upstream :D
Just for curiosity, why did you asked about that? what would be the
advantages of moving into debian in your POV?
2011/6/30 mentoj dija <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mentoj_dija@gmx.de" target="_blank"><mentoj_dija@gmx.de></a>:
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<pre>hi,
i don't want to cause any war or smth. and a simple NO is answer enough:
but isn't it time to switch to debian to build a studio-distro out of??
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