Hi all, <br><br>About PulseAudio, I can understand some of the reasons why people dislike it.<br>I am on the process to test the beta (10.04), and one of the most important features is the inclusion of jack on the main repositories.<br> being said that, the integration with jack software now will be much better, why?<br>First place the audio software couldn't be compiled and offered as a binary on main, without the other libs being on main.<br>Now its just a matter of the packager, simple compile them with jack support, including totem.<br> <br>Why Pulseaudio, well Pulse audio is a platform that tries to unite all the old sound architectures and create a easy Desktop audio framework. Is it perfect? no, thats true, to much latency for pro audio, but for day to day use is very handy. Pleople should also bear in mind that UbuntuStudio is used on desktop machines and laptops, not only "Studio" machines, that the only thing they do is pro audio, that assumption would be ridiculous.<br> I use pulse for my day to day desktop, and jack for pro audio things. when I start jack, pulse just stops, and everything works, if i want to play something through jack, i use a jack-aware app, like vlc. Why would i want to browse around the web, and look at youtube videos, when i am working on pro audio stuff?<br> <br>Another thing to have in mind is that pulse audio is not going away, and it will be used by the other distros also. I am not a pulse defender, in fact i don't like it as much i like alsa and jack, but it is like democracy.... <br> <br>About settings made to the ubuntu studio distro I made a little wiki page to discuss a ubuntu studio controls redesign. I would like to have some help from you Sandie :D the main goal of the redesign is to have a PRO Control Panel for US, that addresses most of the pro users needs. please contribute to the wiki, add tutorials you find to set audio things, new ideas, etc As fast we decide what to put inside, as fast this can be made and maybe we can get it in Maverick.<br> <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/ControlsRedesign">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/ControlsRedesign</a><br><br>Best regards<br><br>Ricardo Lameiro <br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/4/8 sandie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sandie@sandgreen.dk">sandie@sandgreen.dk</a>></span><br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="im">mark wrote:<br> > [1] gnome depends on pulse, so we have to have it (which begs the<br> > question, why do we need gnome?)<br> ><br> </div>Besause KDE/XFCE isnt as stable as Gnome ? I'm only speaking out of<br> personal expirence here YMMV.<br> <div class="im">> [2] the ubuntu hierarchy insist we use pulse (which begs the question,<br> > wouldn't we be better off working under debian?)<br> ><br> </div>A lot of things just work in Ubuntu. I have used Linux (Redhat) as a<br> webserver for many years, but when Ubuntu came along I was able to<br> switch to Linux on my desktop also.<br> Things seam to happen fast in Ubuntu ( allthou some might say TOO fast ).<br> <div class="im">> I think it's a bit of a joke to have an audio-focussed distro in which<br> > the first things I have to do post-install are disable some of the<br> > default features and manually edit settings.<br> ><br> </div>I have to agree here, my check-list of things to do after a re-install<br> grows with every release, sad but true.<br> but at some point you just want to make some music and not have to<br> bother with all the technical stuff, and getting to know a new distro is<br> still more trouble than tweaking Ubuntu so it fits... at least for now.<br> <br> Regards<br> <font color="#888888">Sandie<br> </font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br> <br> --<br> Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Fagote / Contrafagote<br>Bassoon / Contra-bassoon<br><a href="http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro">http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro</a><br>