Jahshaka is not included because it has not been packaged yet. It will probably make it into Gutsy, but no guarantees. If you feel up to it you can try and package it yourself and get it into feisty-backports. As for Cinelerra, my understanding is this: Cinelerra is not released with one all-encompassing license like other projects do by stamping the GPL (or similar) on them. That means each file in the source has to be sorted through and make sure that if any file is licensed, it is compatible with the free software standards of Ubuntu. Hopefully someone can correct me if I'm mistaken. Jake <div>On 5/16/07, Glenn Thomas <<a href="mailto:avene72@gmail.com">avene72@gmail.com </a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Luis, will you still attempt to add it to a future release, or have you all given up trying? Also, is Jashaka not included for the same reasons? On 5/17/07, Luis de Bethencourt <<a href="mailto:bethencourt@gmail.com">bethencourt@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > that's true glenn. cinelerra is hell to package, too many licensing issues. > > On 5/16/07, Glenn Thomas <<a href="mailto:avene72@gmail.com">avene72@gmail.com</a>> wrote: > > On 5/17/07, <a href="mailto:laurent.bellegarde@free.fr">laurent.bellegarde@free.fr</a> <<a href="mailto:laurent.bellegarde@free.fr"> laurent.bellegarde@free.fr</a>> wrote: > > > Cory K. a écrit : > > > >>> <a href="mailto:laurent.bellegarde@free.fr">laurent.bellegarde@free.fr</a> wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>> hi, me again, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> another question about the video editing software inside ubuntu studio. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> CInelerra was not included because of licensing reasons. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> okay, could you simply explain me what's the trouble with Cinelerra ? > > > >> isn't it a free software ? > > > >> > > > >> > > > > For example: The use the mscore fonts. They are not redistributable  in > > > > any other forn but the original .exe and filename. > > > >> > > > okay. > > > > > > >>> Also, Audacity isnt there because its redundant. If someone wants it its > > > >>> a simple apt-get away. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >> okay, what's software has been choosen face to audacity ? > > > >> > > > >> Audacity in France has an enormous succes, people should not understand > > > >> not to have it... > > > >> > > > >> > > > > While Audacity is very useful we are aiming at people who want a higher > > > > level of production. We include Ardour 2. > > > > > > > > > > okay, so I have another new question, ubuntu studio is for who ? > > > > > > - beginners in multimedia under GNU/Linux, > > > > > > - professionnals working with free software to produce videos or audio > > > products. > > > > > > - other solution ? > > > > > > I've never try ardour yet, but thise software seems not to be easy to > > > use as it is for professionnal, like cinelerra face to kino. > > > > > > if U.Studio is for professionnal, which software is included for editing > > > video as ardour for audio ? > > > > > > Laurent > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > > > <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com"> Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users </a> > > > > > > > As far as I'm aware they were trying to get hold of Cinelerra which is > > a more professional video app, but couldn't do so because of licensing > > restrictions. > > > > -- > > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > > <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users</a> > > > > > -- > Luis de Bethencourt Guimerá > luisbg > <<a href="mailto:bethencourt@gmail.com">bethencourt@gmail.com</a>> > GPG: B0ED1326 > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com"> Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users</a> > -- Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list <a href="mailto:Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com">Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users"> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users</a> </blockquote></div>