[ubuntu-studio-users] Ubuntu Studio Daily 23.10 Installation failure

[Erich Eickmeyer]

On Monday, August 7, 2023 1:46:55 PM PDT you wrote:
> If you wait till close to GA  to finally address
> issues like base install, you miss all of the interested parties'
> participation and feedback. Whatever code is delivered is likely to be less
> stable due to the lack of input unless your QA teams are real good at
> exploring all of the usage and loading scenarios.

You completely missed my point that the bug in question is entirely out of mine and 
my teams hands and that you're barking up the wrong tree. There's literally nothing 
I or the rest of the Ubuntu Studio team can do about the installation errors you're 
facing, which are also affecting Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Server since it's the 
exact same package.

Here's some info about the GRUB package (and its source package, grub2):

     *  grub-efi-amd64-signed (1.192+2.06-2ubuntu16, lunar): GRand Unified 
Bootloader, version 2 (EFI-AMD64 version, signed). In component main, is optional. 
Built by grub2-signed. Size 1,346 kB / 7,009 kB. (Only available for amd64.)

The highlight here is "In component main". Main is the main repository that only 
people with Ubuntu Core Developer permissions can touch. I only have Master of 
the Universe permissions, which means I can't touch Main, but can touch Universe 
and Multiverse. By the way, that's higher permissions than anyone else on my team 
currently, but still doesn't let me touch GRUB.

Again, you're barking up the wrong tree, and I suggest sticking to the bug report for 
communication or a mailing list. Emailing people directly to bring attention to a bug 
report (especially one out of their control) is highly inappropriate.

Rest assured it is being worked on, and that if you had simply looked at the Ubuntu 
Developers mailing list, you may have seen that and may have been able to provide 
some feedback yourself (after subscribing):

https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2023-July/042713.html[1]

But emailing me directly and implying insistently that it's under my control after 
being told repeatedly that it's not is completely inappropriate.

> On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 3:08 PM Erich Eickmeyer <eeickmeyer at ubuntu.com>
> 
> wrote:
> > You are being incredibly demanding on someone (me) who isn't paid to do
> > any of this and that I do it in my spare time. In fact, nobody on my team
> > is paid to do any of this. Perhaps a public reminder of this needs to go
> > out via all social media channels and a blog post?
> > 
> > Either way, this is CC'd to the user support list where this email SHOULD
> > have gone to begin with, not to my personal email.
> > 
> > On Monday, August 7, 2023 12:51:56 PM PDT you wrote:
> > > Mr. Eichmmeyer,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I am sorry if I offended you but based off this kill the messenger
> > > 
> > > reaction, I have no other choice but to make some observations and hope
> > > 
> > > they will help you as we move forward. After reviewing your Interview, I
> > > 
> > > appreciate you taking the helm of Ubuntu Studio as a "Dead Product",
> > > 
> > > https://youtu.be/jsg7K78RSvM
> > > 
> > > I ask you,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Do you know why it has that reputation?
> > 
> > It had that reputation (pastense, that was an interview from 4 years ago
> > and was done by someone who is now a friend) because, before I came along,
> > it literally had zero development for the two years prior, so it literally
> > was dead. Now it's alive and thriving and no longer has that reputation.
> > But bear in mind, I'm only a volunteer. I am *not* paid to do the work, so
> > emailing me directly about a grub issue, which I don't even touch (that's
> > all done at Canonical), is entirely inappropriate when it's all done in
> > the
> > bug tracker.
> > 
> > > When Canonical opens the development cycle for the upcoming release,
> > > they
> > > 
> > > do so with widely available web based file directories with the output
> > > of
> > > 
> > > Daily Build processes for all interested parties to access. This issue I
> > 
> > am
> > 
> > > trying to raise to you is a Dead In the water inability to install
> > > 
> > > the Daily Build. If you can't install it, you can't test drive any new
> > > 
> > > Studio features. I had hoped that the daily quality assurance tests
> > > would
> > > 
> > > have stopped errors like this from killing the whole install but this
> > 
> > issue
> > 
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