[ubuntu-studio-users] ubuntu-studio-users Digest, Vol 84, Issue 10
Alex Armani
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Sun Apr 13 05:54:34 UTC 2014
I had the same problem with the installer hanging in 14:o4 at the package selection point using the daily release a few days ago.I gave up eventualy.Has there been any progress with this recently? Is there any point tying agan?
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> 1. Ubiquity hang up 14.04 daily and Beta (Israel)
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> 3. Re: Ubiquity hang up 14.04 daily and Beta (Mike Holstein)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 19:34:39 -0500
>From: Israel <israel at torios.org>
>To: ubuntu-studio-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>Subject: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubiquity hang up 14.04 daily and Beta
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>So... why does the 14.04 installer for beta hang up at the 'package
>selection' portion.
>Has anyone who tested it out experienced it?
>I get a dialog pop-up that has only ?????????
>and I click the button and the installer sits there with the
>'progression' mouse cursor acting like it is doing something... but it
>simply hangs
>Then I drop to a TTY and sudo reboot
>The installer for 12.04 worked just fine for me on the same machine. I
>assume it is a bug in the new packages part. Though, I like the idea of
>being able to opt out of, and into certain programs.
>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 22:48:42 -0400
>From: Mike Holstein <mikeh789 at gmail.com>
>To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion
> <ubuntu-studio-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Firewire interface
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>On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Israel <israel at torios.org> wrote:
>
>> Well, I am now dual booting [well... triple booting as I need MacOSX for
>> my wife's phone :( ]
>> I use Ubuntu 14.04 and Ubuntu Studio 12.04. It works out of the box in
>> Studio 12.04
>>
>
>ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu
>
>
>> I didn't have to try anything fancy.
>> I am using a Presonus Firebox.
>>
>
>i use a presonus firepod
>
>
>> I prefer to use only FLOSS and only want to install it rather than use a
>> liveCD/USB/DVD (unless it is puppy),
>>
>
>the live CD's i suggest *are* FLOSS, and the one you used to install
>ubuntustudio will do fine. its so you can tweak and try configurations and
>easily get back to a default state without breaking your current
>installation
>
>
>> but thanks for your info.
>> I am in 12.04 right now, but if you need me to run some commands and post
>> the output I would be glad to. Presonus Firebox is already on FFADO (which
>> is why I got it).
>>
>
>the presonus firepod works "out of the box" for me in ubuntustudio 12.04
>through 14.04
>
>
>> I got the interface specifically to use in Ubuntu... but 14.04 is having
>> issues with it.
>>
>
>presonus doenst officially support linux.. RME does AFAIK
>
>
>> To enable it in Studio 12.04
>>
>
>there is no "enable" process for the firepod i have from presonus. it
>literally just runs when i have proper supported firewire chipsets
>
>
>> Open the FFADO mixer, wait until it loads the device.
>> Open QJackctl and change it to firewire
>> Open Audacity (I haven't tried it in Ardour yet... I wanted to just see if
>> it works) change it to Jack
>> Voila! Working as expected.
>>
>> So why doesn't it work in plain Ubuntu 14.04? I tried MANY things, and
>> all of them were useless. Jack works fine with Alsa but not firewire.
>> If you like I can later post the output of the errors.
>>
>>
>> On 04/12/2014 11:16 AM, Mike Holstein wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Israel <israel at torios.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I am having a few issues. I am using Ubuntu 14.04 (not studio) and I am
>>> trying to set up a firewire interface, and I am having some serious issues
>>> getting Jack to recognize it.
>>> Can anyone point me in the direction of a good tutorial for how to
>>> configure qjackctl so use my device. FFADO Mixer loads the interface just
>>> fine, but I cannot seem to figure out how to configure everything to use it
>>> :)
>>>
>>> The other issue is Ubuntu Studio 14.04
>>> I downloaded the 32bit live (DVD) from current yesterday, and Ubiquity
>>> goes fine until the place where I can choose the packages to install. Then
>>> a dialog pops up with a bunch of ???????? and then the installer hangs up
>>> until I use a TTY to sudo reboot.
>>> I have also tried booting the 64bit beta2 on a Macboot, and cannot seem
>>> to boot into anything useful. I am only allowed to choose between the EFI
>>> boots on the USB, and none of those work.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help!
>>>
>>>
>> when i migrated my production rig to linux, using a firewire interface
>> (as well as testing with may other internal and USB interfaces) these are
>> some helpful tips that i found made the transition possible.
>>
>> 1. work from a live CD. there are several nice live CD's these days,
>> such as our ubuntustudio live CD. when i say "live CD", i just refer to the
>> iso image, downloaded and running from whatever you need.. DVD, USB,
>> whatever.. while testing with the live CD's, you can easily tweak *any* and
>> *all* configurations, without the fear of breakage. this is also an easy
>> way to test different kernel versions and JACK versions with your hardware.
>> i like to use an ubuntu 12.04, and now, the upcoming 14.04, as well as
>> AVlinux's live iso
>> 2. what is the issue? is it the firewire? or JACK? or permissions? or what?
>> test things as independently as possible. dont land in a new os, fire up
>> jack, with a piece of firewire hardware you dont know is supported in
>> linux. start with the internal audio device, and learn to configure and run
>> JACK using it. then, you can move forward knowing your JACK configuration
>> is working or not.
>> 3. the firewire chipset *can* make or break linux support. you can run
>> "lspci" in a terminal and see what chipset you have for firewire.. ideally,
>> you have texas instruments.. if not, i have a few others that work well,
>> and also, a few that will never work in linux.
>> 4. i have had laptops with IRQ issues relating to sharing IRQ for firewire
>> with USB ports i was using. you can check this in the terminal with "cat
>> /proc/interrupts"
>> 5. keep in mind, none of the vendors of any of the hardware you have have
>> promised you linux support. a team of experts from many different companies
>> have come together for years and years to work with each other and make
>> sure that your hardware works in a different operating system. you are
>> basically deciding to take that responsibility on for yourself.
>> 6. temporarily running jack as root (which is not something i would want
>> to do all the time, continuously) can help troubleshoot permissions.
>> running "gksudo qjackctl" allows one to start jack as root.. if jack has
>> been failing, but runs as root, then, you know that the hardware
>> configuration in jack works, and that the issue is more likely to do with
>> permissions.
>> 7. in qjackctl, there is a "messages" button that can have lots of helpful
>> information..
>>
>> feel free and share any terminal output here for any of the commands, or
>> the jack GUI error messages.. i suggest joining the IRC for realtime help.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 23:23:14 -0400
>From: Mike Holstein <mikeh789 at gmail.com>
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>Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Ubiquity hang up 14.04 daily and
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>On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Israel <israel at torios.org> wrote:
>
>> So... why does the 14.04 installer for beta hang up at the 'package
>> selection' portion.
>> Has anyone who tested it out experienced it?
>> I get a dialog pop-up that has only ?????????
>> and I click the button and the installer sits there with the 'progression'
>> mouse cursor acting like it is doing something... but it simply hangs
>> Then I drop to a TTY and sudo reboot
>> The installer for 12.04 worked just fine for me on the same machine. I
>> assume it is a bug in the new packages part. Though, I like the idea of
>> being able to opt out of, and into certain programs.
>
>
>
>sounds like a bad image.. i would try downloading the daily.. and use
>https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
>
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2014 22:24:17 -0500
>From: Israel <israel at torios.org>
>To: ubuntu-studio-users at lists.ubuntu.com
>Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-users] Firewire interface
>Message-ID: <534A0361.6020803 at torios.org>
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>Hi again!
>
>On 04/12/2014 09:48 PM, Mike Holstein wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Israel <israel at torios.org
>> <mailto:israel at torios.org>> wrote:
>>
>> Well, I am now dual booting [well... triple booting as I need
>> MacOSX for my wife's phone :( ]
>> I use Ubuntu 14.04 and Ubuntu Studio 12.04. It works out of the
>> box in Studio 12.04
>>
>>
>> ubuntustudio *is* ubuntu
>Yes, I do understand this, though Ubuntu Studio is configured for AV
>usage much more than Ubuntu is (lowlatency kernel is default, as you
>well know)
>
>> I didn't have to try anything fancy.
>> I am using a Presonus Firebox.
>>
>>
>> i use a presonus firepod
>Nice! It is good to know other Presonus devices work well!
>
>> I prefer to use only FLOSS and only want to install it rather than
>> use a liveCD/USB/DVD (unless it is puppy),
>>
>>
>> the live CD's i suggest *are* FLOSS, and the one you used to install
>> ubuntustudio will do fine. its so you can tweak and try configurations
>> and easily get back to a default state without breaking your current
>> installation
>I know they are Libre software... I simply meant that I'd rather install
>it than use a Live system. The only thing I am tweaking is QJackCtrl in
>order to make it see the FireBox, in 14.04. the presets can be easily
>reset, as I have a 'safe' saved preset using alsa and and experimental
>preset for firewire
>
>> but thanks for your info.
>> I am in 12.04 right now, but if you need me to run some commands
>> and post the output I would be glad to. Presonus Firebox is
>> already on FFADO (which is why I got it).
>>
>>
>> the presonus firepod works "out of the box" for me in ubuntustudio
>> 12.04 through 14.04
>
>Unfortunately this is not the case with Ubuntu (not Ubuntu Studio). So
>that is why I am posting to the Ubuntu Studio list, in order to find out
>what is different in Studio, so I can simply configure whatever it is by
>hand to work. And I appreciate you spending so much of your time trying
>to help me!
>
>> I got the interface specifically to use in Ubuntu... but 14.04 is
>> having issues with it.
>>
>>
>> presonus doenst officially support linux.. RME does AFAIK
>I know, it says that on the FFADO page, but in the comments someone
>mentioned that it did actually work 'out of the box' in Ubuntu 12.04, so
>I figured I'd get it (12.04 is supported for long enough anyhow)
>
>> To enable it in Studio 12.04
>>
>>
>> there is no "enable" process for the firepod i have from presonus. it
>> literally just runs when i have proper supported firewire chipsets
>hmmm... you don't even need to start the mixer? I may try without
>starting the mixer... but surely you need Jack, right?
>
>
>Mike, I really appreciate all your patience and hard work in helping me
>to resolve this issue with 14.04. either way, I am glad to have 12.04
>working splendidly with it.
>I always enjoy the process of getting some old 'broken' computer and
>giving it new life with Ubuntu (or in some cases Debian or Fedora... and
>once in a while Puppy).
>Thanks for helping me turn this old Mac someone thought was useless into
>a recording studio :)
>I am not sure I can say thank you enough times, but I do really
>appreciate your help!
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