OT: Help with WIFI on HP Mini 110-1030CA

[Pete Wright]

Hi Ralph
This paragraph of yours (pasted below)  really resonates with me, and I
suggest you post it as a standalone to the whole Ubuntu community; the
whole Linux community, for that matter.
I actually treat myself as a noobie, because stuff keeps changing all the
time.
Everybody should remember they are all noobies at something unless they
have given up on curiosity and growth, and try to treat everybody like they
hope to be treated in those situations.
BTW -- always nice to have somebody who helped create something important
out themselves in a modest way so I can thank them. Accordingly, thank you
Ralph, thank you a lot!

"If you want to attract noobies to a system this is
not the right way to go about it. It is very difficult indeed for one
who is focussing on learning a new OS to have to wade through off-topic
messages and comments about their posting skills or the suitability of
the OS for them, especially if they are self-conscious. Please try to
put yourself in the OP's shoes before responding to a query from a
self-professed newcomer to Linux. I think it also helps to assume any
new poster is a noobie unless you know for sure they are not, and treat
them accordingly."


On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Ross Hamblin <rosscoad at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 24/07/13 01:31, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Tue, 2013-07-23 at 09:10 -0400, Lawrence H. Bulk wrote:
> >> EVERYTHING in Linux is simple once you know the answer!
> >
> > So if the answer to "why can't LINUX use my hardware" is, that there is
> > no driver available, then it's simple to solve? Simply write a driver
> > yourself or simply pay money to get hardware that does work with Linux
> > and that has to be developed, because no available hardware does run on
> > Linux?
> > Or if you need e.g. professional NLE video software or a professional
> > working DAW, than simply write the NLE software yourself, pay somebody
> > to do, buy 100 motherboards until one is stable with your professional
> > sound card and Linux?
> >
> > Note! I'm using Linux only for > than a decade, another issues is, that
> > if you know the answer, e.g. how to do something assumed your Linux does
> > use init, than don't expect that you can solve the same issues a year
> > later, when distros switch to upstart or systemd. Don't expect this for
> > tons of other issues ;).
> >
> > To set up professional Linux environments does mean that you have to
> > figure out things again and again, to pay much money etc., sure once you
> > know the answer, then you know the answer, but for 1 answer you get, 2
> > new answers will appear.
> >
> > Users willing to use Linux, should be aware of this. Linux isn't simple!
> > To use Linux needs lot of knowhow and you need to refresh this knowhow
> > each day.
> >
> Has any one else noticed Ryan's silence? I could be wrong, but it looks
> to me that he may have been scared off by all the off-topic and lack of
> focus on his original query in this thread (and the joke probably didn't
> help much either). If you want to attract noobies to a system this is
> not the right way to go about it. It is very difficult indeed for one
> who is focussing on learning a new OS to have to wade through off-topic
> messages and comments about their posting skills or the suitability of
> the OS for them, especially if they are self-conscious. Please try to
> put yourself in the OP's shoes before responding to a query from a
> self-professed newcomer to Linux. I think it also helps to assume any
> new poster is a noobie unless you know for sure they are not, and treat
> them accordingly.
>
> I was responsible for developing the system/software/recoveryCD for this
> product: http://www.pcworld.co.nz/article/486065/enter_terminator/ in
> 2001-2002 which I believe at the time was one of the first retail
> desktop PCs running Linux out of box. I was also responsible for
> technical support so I do have some experience in this field. We found
> with that product that the support requirements were far less than the
> equivalent Windows based desktop machines of the day. Now that
> installation procedures for most distros are very simple Linux isn't so
> different or complicated, it is the post-install support that decides
> whether people stick with Linux or not.
>
> Ross
>
>
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