Installing 12.10

Joseph Ronne jfronne at gmail.com
Tue Feb 5 00:26:31 UTC 2013


Thanks Mike.. I see that.. I have avoided problems i think by only moving
the data folders and not the whole Home..


On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 6:08 PM, Mike Holstein <mikeh789 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Feb 4, 2013 7:01 PM, "Joseph Ronne" <jfronne at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > As near as I can tell in 12.10 Studio 64bit my home partition contains
> only data. The config information resides in the file system itself.
> Because of past problems I build the system on two hard drives one of which
> remains disconnected other than to transfer data (home) to it occasionally
> or to run when a problem with the main drive occurs. When a problem does
> occur i rebuild the main drive to the point the problem occurred and then
> try to isolate it or avoid the source. This may sound complicated, you do
> have to keep track of additions and modifications.. but that is what lists
> are for.
> > This 12.10 Studio is running on an old Dell 9100 P965 with a pentium 4
> dual core. It runs quite well and I am happy, I use Blender Inkscape and
> Gimp for  graphics and the whole JACK repertoire for MIDI. Plus it seems to
> handle the whole Cairo cuteness quite well.
>
> The config for most everything is either in ~/.config somewhere or in
> another hidden directory in your home directory such as ~/.mozilla...
>
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Mike Holstein <mikeh789 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On Feb 4, 2013 5:51 PM, "George DiceGeorge" <dicegeorge at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Somewhere I read about a separate data partition,
> >> > I’ve always done it in windows,
> >> > but I guess you’re right, it only brings in complications,
> >> > and a temptation to share it between different OS’s...
> >>
> >> Don't think of it as a temptation... just do it if you need it...
> sharing a home between other linux distros or ubuntu installations can be
> handy.. or if you reinstall often and just want to blow the os out and keep
> your data and configs... my only point is, not to assume the issue is *not*
> in your home, and go through a hassle implementing a fix, and acutally
> copying the problem and bringing it forward with you... also, not to assume
> data on a seperate home is "safe"... its still a partition on a hard drive
> that *will* fail, so the seperate home should be a choice more of
> convenience than safety, stability...
> >>
> >> >
> >> > The more standard my installation is the easier it will be for you
> experts to help me with any problems...
> >> > so I’m doing a default installation...
> >> >
> >> > From: Mike Holstein
> >> > Sent: Monday, 04 February, 2013 22:27
> >> > To: Ubuntu Studio Users Help and Discussion
> >> > Subject: Re: Installing 12.10
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Feb 4, 2013 4:02 PM, "George DiceGeorge" <dicegeorge at hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm hoping to install UStudio 12.10,
> >> > > on a HP Pavilion a6250.uk
> >> > > it's 64 bit Intel Core 2 Quad CPU  Q6600 @ 2.40 GHz  says sysinfo
> (kentsfield)
> >> > > it has Virtualization technology
> >> > >
> >> > > I'm downloading ubuntustudio-12.10-dvd-amd64iso.
> >> > > I'm going to test it on a live DVD or USB stick first.
> >> > >
> >> > > The existing OS in Ubuntu 12.04 32bit, which has upgraded many
> times and seems to have faults.
> >> > >
> >> > > I want a separate Home partition,
> >> > > should I do this after it's installed,
> >> > > or during installing?
> >> > > And then copy the old Home data over?
> >> > >
> >> > > I knew a lot about CP/M and MSDOS3.2,
> >> > > but havenet enough brain left to become an expert on Linux,
> >> > > I hope it will just work.
> >> > >
> >> > > [george]
> >> >
> >> > You want the seperate home before installation, not trying to create
> it afterward... what does a seperate home do? Or better yet, what doesn't
> it do?...
> >> >
> >> > Seperate home partition on the same hard drive doesn't provide any
> backup or extra protection. *when* that hard drive fails, the data in any
> partition is able to be lost. /home on a seperate hard drive doesn't
> provide any extra protection either... just means your data is on a
> different drive than the os, which might be handy with a spinnng drive and
> an ssd.
> >> >
> >> > Seperate home doesn't isolate your configuration from causing issues
> and "breaking" things...
> >> >
> >> > For example, right now, your user config could be the cause of all
> your issues. When you reinstall, and move your home data, either from or to
> a seperate home partition or not, you will bring the error with you.
> >> >
> >> > I would troubleshoot your current 12.04 that is "broken" by creating
> a new user, and logging in and testing... or by removing or renaming your
> .config files in your home. This will isolate your configuration from the
> equation.
> >> >
> >> > I run 12.04... its the lts. Long term support. There is no reason not
> to run 12.10, but 12.04 is supported for 5 years and 12.10 for 18 months,
> assuming that would sway your decision...
> >> >
> >> > What does a seperate home partition do? It really helps one maintain
> one place for data and configurations for whatever benefit that might
> bring...
> >> >
> >> > Cheers and good luck!
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
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