(rant) Is there any hope

Jose H. joseche at gmail.com
Sat Mar 3 06:45:31 UTC 2012

So, if I ready correctly:

Ubuntu Studio is not, and will not be a productive audio recording and
mixing environment.
     1) kernel issues
     2) driver issues

     1) Use a new distro that some say is great !  ( a new clone of
ubuntu/debian/etc.. ) - not really a good option
     2) Just install Windows and be able to do some of the stuff, maybe all
you need    - realistic option
     3) Wait until Linux has a decent Sound API           - unrealistic

Well, that conclusion is sound with my own experience. Ubuntu/Linux is
supposed to be better than other OSs but definitely music production is not
one of those fields in which it gets even to the minimum expected.

Personally I think this is because we don't have a firm base to build. You
can't expect to have great user apps if you can't even have a good OS
layer. Even if you have great apps, for what if you can't get the OS to
work !?. We have ZynAddSubFX, but your sound card just doesn't work !, why
?, maybe because pulseaudio, maybe because the driver, maybe because the
kernel or maybe because the modules you load ?, or maybe because you are
not tired of linux and you just want to play and forget about Ubuntu Studio.


El 18 de febrero de 2012 06:04, teza <tezalprod at gmail.com> escribió:

> Hi
> Should try.Tango Studio
> Regards
> Teza.
> Le 15 févr. 2012 05:11, "Rick Green" <rtg at aapsc.com> a écrit :
> for Ubuntu Studio as a productive audio recording and mixing environment?
>> Four years ago, I bought a Focusrite Saffire Pro 26 firewire interface,
>> largely because it was listed as one of the best-supported by the ffado
>> project.  I loaded up a copy of UbuntuStudio 8.04LTS.  The clean install
>> wouldn't talk to the interface, but after I obtained a bleeding-edge copy
>> of the ffado source from one of the developers, and recompiled locally, I
>> was up and running.  I've used that installation for every recording I've
>> done since.  For the most part it's stable, and I've learned to work-around
>> its quirks
>>  When 10.04 came out, I thought I'd upgrade, thinking I'd like to see the
>> latest enhancements to Ardour, and it might be more forgiving of the order
>> I start up programs.  But 10.04 wasn't stable enough to run jack for more
>> than a few minutes before the xrun count went thru the roof.
>>  Since then, I've tried every new release, and the regressions are
>> stacking up faster than ever.
>>  I recently did a clean install of 11.10 (amd64), and tonight gave it a
>> first attempt with the firewire interface...
>>  With 8.04, I start ffado-mixer, and it automatically starts the
>> ffado-dbus-server.  With this one, it merely complains that the dbus server
>> isn't running, so I'm forced to open a terminal and start it, then when I
>> restart ffado-mixer, it tells me 'no supported devices found'.
>>  This isn't exactly true, for when I go to a terminal and run ffado-test
>> ListDevices, it clearly finds my focusrite pro26IO on node 1.
>> I launch qjackctl, open the setup window, and select the firewire driver,
>> accepting all the defaults for now.  When I attempt to start jack, it fails
>> with a 'cannot connect to server as client' message.
>> After many attempts and reboots, I discover that if I start qjackctl and
>> start jack without attempting to start ffado-mixer or ffado-dbus-server
>> first, then jack will actually start! (With 8.04, I HAD to start
>> ffado-mixer first.)
>>  I launch Ardour, open a new session, and start to record two tracks of
>> whatever audio happened to be playing on the stereo at the time.  About 24
>> minutes later, just as I'm getting complacent with no xruns recorded(!),
>> jack inexplicably dies, but qjackctl doesn't know it, so it is locked up,
>> too.  I ended up having to go back to the terminal and kill -9 everything
>> jack-related I could find, then power down my interface, and power it back
>> on, then restart qjackctl, and finally jack.  Only then could I tell Ardour
>> to reconnect and save the session, but for some reason Ardour's transport
>> was messed up.  I could move the playhead either directly, or with the |<<
>> button, but the 'Big Clock' still showed the time at the end of the aborted
>> capture, and the 'play' button or the spacebar had no effect.
>>  I closed Ardour, then went to stop jack and close qjackctl, and qjackctl
>> threw messages about a client still connected (Ardour was already shut down
>> at this point), and after I press the 'close anyway' button, then qjackctl
>> itself refuses to quit cleanly, and I get a 'program not responding'
>> message from the window manager, and I'm forced to go back to the terminal
>> and resort to kill -9 again.
>>  The developers are over halfway into the 12.04 cycle now, so I don't see
>> any point in submitting bug reports against 11.10 for all this.  Have they
>> gotten to the point of publishing any pre-builds of 12.04, and would it be
>> any help to install that and submit bugs against 12.04pre- instead?
>> --
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>> temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
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