changing to debian?

mentoj dija mentoj_dija at
Thu Jun 30 19:58:15 UTC 2011

On 30.06.2011 19:14, Mike Holstein wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:44 AM, mentoj dija <mentoj_dija at 
> <mailto:mentoj_dija at>> wrote:
>     well, i'm using ubuntu for 4 years now. but i finally have enough
>     of it. i'm tiered of updating a hole system after half a year. i
>     know, that can be helpfull, but its also annoying. and the change
>     to unity clearly showed me, that its going into a bad direction,
>     which is not any more focused on the users. in my eyes.
>     i probably will stay with Ubuntu studio for music production, but
>     for my daily work, i defenitly will change to debian (testing).
>     Unfortunately i'm not smart enough to compile a real-time-kernl by
>     myself. Thats why i have to stay with 10.04 for my studio distro.
> you might want to look at something with a rolling release (linux mint 
> debian edition comes to mind)... personally, i run the LTS version of 
> ubuntu (LTS = long term support) those are supported for 5 years, and 
> come around every 2 years. the latest LTS release is lucid 10.04. this 
> means i do *not* update/upgrade every 6 months.
yes, of course i know about the LTS. but again, i have old versions of 
the software then.

> unity is just one of the desktop options we have with ubuntu, if it 
> doesnt meet your needs/wants, check out XFCE, KDE, GNOME or LXDE (or 
> any of the other options)... this is however the ubuntustudio mailing 
> list, and we are not planning on shipping the unity DE as default 
> anytime soon, so you may want redirect your valid critiques of the 
> unity desktop to the ubuntu desktop team mailing list 
> ... (the 
> desktop team wiki page : )
i know. and i realy like the idea of Ubuntu studio with xfce. I just 
think, the unity-thing shows, what ubuntu is going to be. and i just 
don't know, if thats the right thing for a studio distro

> we have several PPA contributors for -realtime kernel options. very 
> soon we will not need a different kernel for these tasks. here is the 
> official word from the debian multimedia team about realtime kernels, 
> and the lack of one for debian (source 
> )
> "The Debian Multimedia team is not working on including a kernel image 
> with the realtime-patches applied in Debian. Much of the 
> realtime-patches have been accepted in the mainline kernel, to the 
> point that for most purposes the stock Debian kernel is suitable even 
> for realtime-like work."
> if you end up using debian, i have heard good things about the 
> liquorix kernel , but AFAIK the distro AVlinux 
> has a custom RT kernel that is available somewhere for download and 
> can be used with debian.

cheers. i check that out.

> all of that being said, you can feel free to get involved in any area 
> of ubuntu (ubuntustudio for example) and help guide it in the 
> direction you feel it should go. if that seems like to much to take 
> on, all of this software is open and freely available.. you can always 
> make your own distro with whatever desktop environment, and whatever 
> kernel, and whatever packages you want. AND, you can email this list 
> with links to where to download and check it out...

yes i know. but i am just a stupid user. i have no idea of programming. 
I only love the idea of a free music-production-central. and don't get 
me wrong. i am sure, the US-development team is making the right 
decisions after all.

woob on!

>     On 30.06.2011 12:14, Ricardo Lameiro wrote:
>>     Well, ubuntu is based on debian, most of the pacakages used by
>>     ubuntustudio come directly from debian syncs.
>>     Bear in mind that making a distro is hard and needs a lot of
>>     development time and effort.
>>     Also, I dont think that UbuntuStudio will change to debian as its upstream :D
>>     Just for curiosity, why did you asked about that? what would be the
>>     advantages of moving into debian in your POV?
>>     2011/6/30 mentoj dija<mentoj_dija at>  <mailto:mentoj_dija at>:
>>>     hi,
>>>     i don't want to cause any war or smth. and a simple NO is answer enough:
>>>     but isn't it time to switch to debian to build a studio-distro out of??
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