9.04 ??

Eric Hedekar afterthebeep at gmail.com
Sun Apr 26 18:07:48 BST 2009

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Eric Hedekar <afterthebeep at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 6:35 AM, mac <suemac at empire.net> wrote:
>> Ok, so why bother to add frebob and ffado to the distro and NOT have
>> raw1394 loaded by default?
> Because it's a security risk to have raw1394 loaded by default - at least
> until the new juju firewire stack is implemented (a goal for 9.10).
> If you need raw1394 added you can do so easily in the  System ->
> Administration -> Ubuntu Studio Controls application.  Simply check the
> 'Enable raw1394 access' checkbox, then click apply.
> Hope that helps.
> -Eric

The following quote is taken from the "Ubuntu Studio 8.04 -> 9.04 Upgrade"
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 8:39 AM, mac <suemac at empire.net> wrote:
> ffado is basically useless without it, so ask the user during install if
> they are using a fw device, if so activate raw1394 and note that it is a
> security issue (just as the Studio Controls do). if they respond no,
> don't even bother with ffado.
*Rant warning*
Please consider your tone next time you request a feature.  It would be
really nice to have a detection script in the installer that adjusts the
contents of the audio metapackage (as well as a similar script for everyone
that downloads the metas ontop of their vanilla system), but we simply don't
have such a magical feature yet.
Feature requests that come in the form of "Ok, so why bother to add frebob
and ffado to the distro and NOT have raw1394 loaded by default?" do nothing
for the Ubuntu Studio community other than piss off the developers.  I'd
much rather be playing teatime with my daughter this Sunday morning than
answering pissed off people who can't be bothered to go through five mouse
clicks to configure their own bloody system.  Others would prefer to be
working on things that they're actually paid to do.  Maybe next time we just
won't bother packaging the FFADO drivers and instead you can compile
everything from scratch - would you prefer that?

The Ubuntu Studio developers are giving up their time to make your life
easier.  Don't take such a flippant tone with them.  If you really think the
OS is in such a bad state that it's not useable, maybe consider assisting
with the testing of the new juju firewire stack when it's ready for testing
(better yet, help get it ready for testing) - it takes care of the raw1394
permissions issue.


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