PC x Mac

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Tue Dec 2 14:11:52 GMT 2008

Ok... I've held my tongue on this long enough... :P 

I won't reiterate what has already been said, I saw the email come across 
about a week ago and it made a solid point. Apple's company strategy resembles 
the hunting tactics of leeches. They have taken everything from Open Source, 
built their entire company upon it and gave _nothing_ back. Name one 
application that Apple has developed and ported over to Linux. Hell, they 
haven't even ported iTunes over... 

Personally, I don't want to invest into that type of environment... I care 
where my money goes and I choose to support business models that promote human 
interest instead of degrade it. So, if I can do the same job in Open Source... 
consider it done - it may be harder, or it may take a bit more time... and I'm 
okay with that because in the end I know that my pocket book did not feed the 

I used to think Apple was better than Microsoft, in terms of business 
practices and ethics, and now I can see they are the same... if not worse. I 
will have nothing to do with any of them... 

*descends from soap box*


On Tuesday 02 December 2008 03:53:16 Karoliina Salminen wrote:
> Hi,
> Well, there was the discussion about laptops... "I use this and I swear on
> it". Well, I have a gadget freak's solution: have them all. As a result, I
> don't swear on any particular machine and the only ones of them I
> really love of them are all Apple hardware. I don't really look for
> the processing power only, but the complete product - I have plenty of
> processing power available at hand. For example, the iMac which I use
> for the most heavy music production, is only 2.6 GHz Core2 Duo, and so
> far the CPU hasn't run out in my music even if I am running dozens of
> software synthesizers and audio tracks at the same time with the Space
> Designer per part (the convolution reverb, I remember the time when I
> had a Pentium3 - 400 MHz, and all the CPU got used for calculating
> just one convolution reverb and there was a huge latency on it, now I
> can have about as many of convolution reverbs at one time than I ever
> want, and the CPU is not yet even fully utilized). What it comes to
> loving one machine, one feature of a old PC is that it has absolutely
> no lasting feel to it, after 10 years, the PC is just junk and trash.
> The Apple machine is beautiful, and feels retro cool after 10 years. I
> don't love any of the PCs I have. They are just boring tools where GPU
> model and CPU model counts and when they get old, they have no value
> of any kind (neither emotional nor practical).
> I am regularly using the following laptops:
> - Apple Macbook (2.2 GHz, 4GB RAM, 250 GB HD) (MacOSX + Ubuntu) [Hardy]
> - Apple Macbook (2.0 GHz, 4GB RAM, 250 GB HD) (MacOSX)
> - Apple Macbook Pro (4GB RAM, 250 GB HD) (MacOSX + Ubuntu) [Hardy]
> - Lenovo Thinkpad T61p (4GB RAM, 160 GB HD) (Ubuntu) [Intrepid] [for
> software development]
> - Lenovo Thinkpad X61s (uh oh, the ugly and evil OS, this is for some
> work bureaucracy)
> - Lenovo Thinkpad T60 (Ubuntu) [Hardy] [for software development]
> - Dell Latitude D600 x 2 (no longer in active use) (Ubuntu) [Hardy]
> [for software development]
> - Some IBM T40s.
> - One T40 or something like that monitors our home automation (we have
> computer controlled lights for example, lights can be switched on and
> off from Linux console (we are slowly making progress with the
> graphical user interface))
> + dozen of old laptops which no longer are very usable (these have
> either Ubuntu or Suse in them)
> At home we have desktops as follows (that are in use):
> - Intel Core2 Quad, 4GB, 2.4 GHz, 1 TB, Geforce 8800 GTX 768MB,
> St-audio DSP2000 x 2. 30" 2560x1600 Dell monitor. Running Ubuntu
> Studio. [Hardy] [living room general purpose machine, with music
> production capabilities]
> - Intel Core2 Duo, 4GB, 2 GHz, ~2 TB, GeForce 8600 GT. Planned to be
> replaced with Intel Core7. Connected to 1920x1200 monitor and HD video
> projector (which is in the home theater room). Running regular Ubuntu.
> [Hardy] [Home-theater PC and file server]
> - AMD Athlon 64, 2.2 GHz, 4 GB, 500 GB, server, running in text mode,
> Running Ubuntu server. [Hardy]
> - Apple iMac 20" 2.6 GHz, with second 24" monitor attached with
> resolution 1920x1200. The iMac has 500 GB internal drive. Running
> MacOSX and music software (Logic Studio/Logic Pro 8) [music
> production, video editing/production, audio editing, 3D CAD]
> - VIA Epia diskless PC running Linux-CNC (Ubuntu) [Hardy]
> No longer in use:
> - previous server (reason: broken)
> - previous file server (reason: broken)
> Then of course, we have a pile of broken hard disks, etc. And we are
> frequently giving out old hardware for free to a friend of ours who
> removes and reuses the components (I mean, the resistors, capacitors
> etc., not the full computer components which are usually broken at
> that time) from them.
> Handheld computers (only computers count, I do not count my phone or
> iPod to them):
> - Nokia 770 x couple [Maemo Debian]
> - Nokia N800 x couple [Maemo Debian]
> - Nokia N810 x 2 [Maemo Debian]
> -- Karoliina

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