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If there is any known way i can instruct myself into such matters more profoundly, for instance: how to configure the compiling process through an script which chooses compiler's configuration at glance over the system's configuration before the installation process is done(?). I remember we used to compile from source, back in the nineties with Red Hat from 4 to 5 adding features at requirement and i am available for the task myself, the fact is i am "out of shape" about it and my knowledge about the now-a-days process seem to change after each distribution version, so i would like to refresh such knowledge to get in the mood and do it. I thought there would be graphic ways (GUI) to do the configuration through a front end for the task, in the uck or something. 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Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 19:41:41 -0400<br>
From: Helios Martinez Dominguez <<a href="mailto:helios.cobain.stefani@gmail.com">helios.cobain.stefani@gmail.<wbr>com</a>><br>
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Greetings, once again.<br>
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I would not like to appear insisting nor recurrent in sight of my previous<br>
digests, yet there is another issue i would like to address, as i feel it<br>
is our concern as developers, even if my input has been few about the<br>
overall development process. The fact is, since 12.04, there has been a<br>
strong lack of legacy support for the outdated hardware, which i believe<br>
remains as one of the main motivation for Linux distributions all over.<br>
While there seems consistent that Microsoft and Apple provide the ultimate<br>
technology support for their standards and drop support to those appliances<br>
which no longer produce or rely on, the main line of action about Linux<br>
developers, administrators and users remain about recovering, updating and<br>
making use of legacy hardware all around the globe, which seem to me have<br>
been overlooked by the Ubuntu Studio distribution since 12 or 13 and above.<br>
It is understandable to provide a common ground for compatibility and keep<br>
providing downloading links for the previous versions which have been<br>
relying on deprecated hardware and configurations, yet the legacy support<br>
which characterizes Linux ideal of working seems to be overlooked while the<br>
distribution advances forward to brand new hardware, appearing there are<br>
commercial linkage to hardware manufacturers and sellers, while should not<br>
be the case. This is my personal appreciation as i happen to rely on legacy<br>
hardware to keep providing myself for computational and informatic services<br>
while the technology race goes on as fast as it wants to. I believe there<br>
is strong resonance on the matter all through the community and it should<br>
be noticed and taken on account on future versions, even if it seems to<br>
require heavier code<br>
? ?<br>
(when actually is usually lighter code which is required to provide for<br>
legacy support)<br>
? and more disk (iso) space.<br>
<br>
There should be a way to provide x86 support natively while providing x64<br>
upgrading on the go as detected, as needed or as stated. It would allow to<br>
remain lighter ISO's, support legacy hardware with lower performance? than<br>
commercially available and upgrade to a more recent configuration as<br>
required. I would like to configure such code myself as i consider i am a<br>
great developer and could (and should) provide myself with such<br>
requirements as needed, yet my knowledge on the procedure is poor at the<br>
time and it would take longer to study and practice all the way through the<br>
learning process than to proceed to ask for someone else who does knows,<br>
works and relies on the procedure on a periodic basis. As such, i formally<br>
ask the development team to address my request into such matter, as<br>
possible. Thanks in advance. Good day.<br>
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Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2017 18:22:08 -0700 (PDT)<br>
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On Sun, 30 Jul 2017, Helios Martinez Dominguez wrote:<br>
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> There should be a way to provide x86 support natively while providing x64<br>
> upgrading on the go as detected, as needed or as stated. It would allow to remain<br>
<br>
We already do provide both 32 and 64 bit ISOs. Putting both on one ISO<br>
would pretty much double the size of an ISO that is the biggest ISO of all<br>
the Ubuntu ISOs. Last I checked, UbuntuSTudio did still load and work on<br>
well over 10 years old computers so long as they have at least 1 Gig ram<br>
(though more is needed to make the best use) There are enough people who<br>
rely on a machine not connected to tyhe internet to make on the go<br>
installs not practical.<br>
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> lighter ISO's, support legacy hardware with lower performance? than commercially<br>
> available and upgrade to a more recent configuration as required. I would like to<br>
> configure such code myself as i consider i am a great developer and could (and<br>
> should) provide myself with such requirements as needed, yet my knowledge on the<br>
> procedure is poor at the time and it would take longer to study and practice all<br>
> the way through the learning process than to proceed to ask for someone else who<br>
> does knows, works and relies on the procedure on a periodic basis. As such, i<br>
> formally ask the development team to address my request into such matter, as<br>
> possible. Thanks in advance. Good day.<br>
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Please make yourself available to take on this task. Asking a few people<br>
with hardly any time to take on yet another task just means most people<br>
will just hit the delete key on this mail and get on with life.<br>
<br>
Really you should at least make yourself familiar enough with the process<br>
to know how much work you are asking "someone" else to do for your system<br>
and maybe not many others in their spare time. The Ubuntu kernel and<br>
repository maintainers are already asking us to drop support for 32bit<br>
systems... and some of our main applications are no longer 32bit<br>
compatable upstream by the application developers either.<br>
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Len Ovens<br>
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