<div dir="ltr"> <div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 8:11 AM, <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-devel-request@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-studio-devel-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Send ubuntu-studio-devel mailing list submissions to <a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel</a> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to <a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-devel-request@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-studio-devel-request@lists.ubuntu.com</a> You can reach the person managing the list at <a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-devel-owner@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-studio-devel-owner@lists.ubuntu.com</a> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-studio-devel digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5 (Set Hallstrom) 2. Re: ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5 (autumna) 3. Re: ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5 (Ralf Mardorf) 4. Re: ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5 (Ralf Mardorf) 5. Re: ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5 (Set Hallstrom) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 19:25:20 +0200 From: Set Hallstrom <<a href="mailto:set@ubuntustudio.org">set@ubuntustudio.org</a>> To: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5 Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:575EEC80.4010708@ubuntustudio.org">575EEC80.4010708@ubuntustudio.org</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" On 2016-06-13 18:09, J?hann ?rn Geirdal wrote: > Hi here is my first try on this <a href="http://geirdal.is/index.php/studio-0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://geirdal.is/index.php/studio-0</a> \o/ yeah! you deliver! Looks real cool! It's the first shot, and i'm sure we can get it even cooler with a few rounds of execution/feedback pingpong!! The font will be "ubuntu regular" <a href="http://font.ubuntu.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://font.ubuntu.com/</a> but i'm guessing you just put text to show that it works for the purpose? :) The thing i'm not super fond of, is the deformation of the logo. Maybe it's an optical illusion as a result of how you cut it? But it looks kind of oval. I also notice that you are using an old version of the CoF (Circle of Friends = ubunutu studio logo) that has a bump in the midle circle's edge. The correct one is here: <a href="http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-art/ubuntustudio-artwork/current-standard/files" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-art/ubuntustudio-artwork/current-standard/files</a> Like Ralf says, it has little to do with the workflow, but you could fix that by replacing the CoF by the Category icons maybe? Why not try? <a href="http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-menu/trunk/files/head:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/categories/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-menu/trunk/files/head:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/categories/</a> But feel free to draw your own :) You can download the svg-files from the launchpad-links above, but the coolest, fastest, bestest is to use bazaar, are you familiar with it? (bzr) Krytarik and zequence are my bzr sensei's. I could maybe help you get familiar with it on IRC, but if you manage to get them to teach you, chances are you will become better than me in no time! :) Until then, you can read more about bzr here: <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/SetupDeveloperEnvironment" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/SetupDeveloperEnvironment</a> Cheers king! -- Set Hallstrom aka sakrecoer -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <<a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/attachments/20160613/477afe47/attachment-0001.pgp" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/attachments/20160613/477afe47/attachment-0001.pgp</a>> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 21:23:04 +0300 From: autumna <<a href="mailto:autumna@gmail.com">autumna@gmail.com</a>> To: Ubuntu Studio Development <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5 Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:575EFA08.8060608@gmail.com">575EFA08.8060608@gmail.com</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" belated reply. :) pretty much what everybody said so far. 2 very minor opinions. If and only if you still have the larger files, actually having a larger resolution might be a good idea. one layout we were working with uses the full width. if you don't have them, it is no big deal. we'll make it work. I assume the text will be separate in final version? It is better for SEO and for people who disable the download of big images. Our wordpress plugins and templates will allow us to place the text as on top of the image. :) Best autumna On 06/13/2016 08:25 PM, Set Hallstrom wrote: > On 2016-06-13 18:09, J?hann ?rn Geirdal wrote: >> Hi here is my first try on this <a href="http://geirdal.is/index.php/studio-0" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://geirdal.is/index.php/studio-0</a> > \o/ yeah! you deliver! Looks real cool! It's the first shot, and i'm > sure we can get it even cooler with a few rounds of execution/feedback > pingpong!! > > The font will be "ubuntu regular" <a href="http://font.ubuntu.com/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://font.ubuntu.com/</a> but i'm > guessing you just put text to show that it works for the purpose? :) > > The thing i'm not super fond of, is the deformation of the logo. Maybe > it's an optical illusion as a result of how you cut it? But it looks > kind of oval. I also notice that you are using an old version of the CoF > (Circle of Friends = ubunutu studio logo) that has a bump in the midle > circle's edge. > The correct one is here: > <a href="http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-art/ubuntustudio-artwork/current-standard/files" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-art/ubuntustudio-artwork/current-standard/files</a> > > Like Ralf says, it has little to do with the workflow, but you could fix > that by replacing the CoF by the Category icons maybe? Why not try? > <a href="http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-menu/trunk/files/head:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/categories/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-menu/trunk/files/head:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/categories/</a> > But feel free to draw your own :) > > You can download the svg-files from the launchpad-links above, but the > coolest, fastest, bestest is to use bazaar, are you familiar with it? > (bzr) Krytarik and zequence are my bzr sensei's. I could maybe help you > get familiar with it on IRC, but if you manage to get them to teach you, > chances are you will become better than me in no time! :) > > Until then, you can read more about bzr here: > <a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/SetupDeveloperEnvironment" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/SetupDeveloperEnvironment</a> > > Cheers king! > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <<a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/attachments/20160613/e5350a27/attachment-0001.html" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-studio-devel/attachments/20160613/e5350a27/attachment-0001.html</a>> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 20:31:51 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf <<a href="mailto:ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net">ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net</a>> To: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5 Message-ID: <20160613203151.18c64f65@archlinux.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 19:25:20 +0200, Set Hallstrom wrote: >Like Ralf says, it has little to do with the workflow, but you could >fix that by replacing the CoF by the Category icons maybe? Why not try? ><a href="http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-menu/trunk/files/head:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/categories/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-menu/trunk/files/head:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/categories/</a> No, don't even try this! Keep in mind, how you inspire the desire to drink a coke from your company. Not by replacing the logo of the Set Coke, with the traffic sign of a motorway restaurant and a background picture showing chumps. You will show the picture of a glass of coke, palms, shiny happy people and place the Set Coke logo in the right bottom corner. The background pictures of the three graphics have nothing to do with video, graphics and audio. Regarding colouration. Sound transfairs by air, air = blue, ok. Graphic is seen by light, sunlight = orange, ok. Violett for video is ok, but to complete something like a color circle, I would chose green, and perhaps show something natural in combination with video. It would also be possible to make video orange and graphics green, just blue for audio shouldn't be replaced, since the distros logo is blue and IMO the important domain of Ubuntu Studio is audio. However, the font is good readable on all of the three backgrounds. Regards, Ralf ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 20:44:00 +0200 From: Ralf Mardorf <<a href="mailto:ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net">ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net</a>> To: Ubuntu Studio devel <<a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a>> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5 Message-ID: <20160613204400.1a6cb106@archlinux.localdomain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 20:31:51 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 19:25:20 +0200, Set Hallstrom wrote: >>Like Ralf says, it has little to do with the workflow, but you could >>fix that by replacing the CoF by the Category icons maybe? Why not >>try? >><a href="http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-menu/trunk/files/head:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/categories/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-menu/trunk/files/head:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/categories/</a> > >No, don't even try this! Keep in mind, how you inspire the desire to >drink a coke from your company. Not by replacing the logo of the >Set Coke, with the traffic sign of a motorway restaurant and a >background picture showing chumps. >You will show the picture of a glass of coke, palms, shiny happy people >and place the Set Coke logo in the right bottom corner. > >The background pictures of the three graphics have nothing to do with >video, graphics and audio. > >Regarding colouration. Sound transfairs by air, air = blue, ok. >Graphic is seen by light, sunlight = orange, ok. >Violett for video is ok, but to complete something like a color circle, >I would chose green, and perhaps show something natural in combination >with video. > >It would also be possible to make video orange and graphics green, just >blue for audio shouldn't be replaced, since the distros logo is blue >and IMO the important domain of Ubuntu Studio is audio. > >However, the font is good readable on all of the three backgrounds. > >Regards, >Ralf PS: Assumed the CoF is else were on the website, then replacing it by the category icons makes sense, but this doesn't release from showing a picture that is related to the category. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2016 10:10:52 +0200 From: Set Hallstrom <<a href="mailto:set@ubuntustudio.org">set@ubuntustudio.org</a>> To: <a href="mailto:ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-studio-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] ubuntu-studio-devel Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5 Message-ID: <<a href="mailto:575FBC0C.8050504@ubuntustudio.org">575FBC0C.8050504@ubuntustudio.org</a>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Hi Ralf! Thanks for getting involved Ralf! > On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 20:31:51 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Mon, 13 Jun 2016 19:25:20 +0200, Set Hallstrom wrote: Why not >>> try? >>> <a href="http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-menu/trunk/files/head:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/categories/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntustudio-menu/trunk/files/head:/usr/share/icons/hicolor/scalable/categories/</a> >> >> No, don't even try this! Keep in mind, how you inspire the desire to >> drink a coke from your company. Not by replacing the logo of the >> Set Coke, with the traffic sign of a motorway restaurant and a >> background picture showing chumps. >> You will show the picture of a glass of coke, palms, shiny happy people >> and place the Set Coke logo in the right bottom corner. :) i agree (although, this is not about "my" brand, but we all know that...right? :D) The thing is that we _will_ have the logo all over the place like you suggested in your Post Scriptum. On 2016-06-13 20:44, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > PS: Assumed the CoF is else were on the website, then replacing it by > the category icons makes sense In fact it made me realize that i didn't ask for anything to illustrate the first section of the feature tour, that outlines what U-S is more broadly. That would be the place for the logo as placed in Geirdal's proposals. It would also be a great place for a background that is purely Mandelbrot-based. >> >> The background pictures of the three graphics have nothing to do with >> video, graphics and audio. That is the point i tried to make of merging the abstract Mandelbrot patterns with something more figurative like the icons. But it could be 3d model? Some suggestions: Video <a href="http://www.blendswap.com/blends/tagged/camera" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.blendswap.com/blends/tagged/camera</a> <a href="http://www.blendswap.com/blends/tagged/lens" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.blendswap.com/blends/tagged/lens</a> (preferably one that has no brand) Graphics: <a href="http://www.blendswap.com/blends/tagged/pencil" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.blendswap.com/blends/tagged/pencil</a> Audio: <a href="http://www.blendswap.com/blends/tagged/speakers" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.blendswap.com/blends/tagged/speakers</a> <a href="http://www.blendswap.com/blends/tagged/music" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.blendswap.com/blends/tagged/music</a> Although, we have to be careful not to clutter it too much to preserve the readability. >> >> Regarding colouration. Sound transfairs by air, air = blue, ok. >> Graphic is seen by light, sunlight = orange, ok. >> Violett for video is ok, but to complete something like a color circle, >> I would chose green, and perhaps show something natural in combination >> with video. >> >> It would also be possible to make video orange and graphics green, just >> blue for audio shouldn't be replaced, since the distros logo is blue >> and IMO the important domain of Ubuntu Studio is audio. Although i might not personally be 100% convinced about our color scheme I'm not sure it is a good idea to start moving the colors around. Color is a difficult thing to agree over, and setting up a voting system will take a lot of time for something that is already established and functioning. As far I understood, blue orange and purple where decided before i joined. They have been the colors for the categories in question since at least 14.04. I think changing them now is doing what you warned us about above with your kokakola allegory: diluting focus. It would also theoretically render false lots of things that we have been done until now, not to mention the difficult task to synchronize the community with the new color-values. What we could discuss at this point is the exact tonality of the orange and the purple (the blue being exactly defined since way back as Ralf says). But because these images are not plain colors, i think Geirdal should carry on with the current toning. Discussion about exact hexadecimal tonality values should, if desired, be focused on other graphic elements that we include in the desktop (icons, woodmarks, highlight etc...) Changing "corporate" branding is something that has to be well prepared and communicated, and therefor i think they should go into a separate thread. I'm sorry to come off as such a naysayer, Ralf. I think you make good points and i'm glad you chose to take part of this. I like your ideas as you suggested for the mockup of 16.04 <a href="http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-art/ubuntustudio-artwork/trunk/view/head:/16.04/unified-design-1604/mockups/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-art/ubuntustudio-artwork/trunk/view/head:/16.04/unified-design-1604/mockups/</a> I'd very much like to take a deeper look together with everyone into this color thing for next LTS :) -- Set Hallstrom aka sakrecoer -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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It has it all: soundtrack, 3d graphics and is video :) Hope iam sending this post right this time :( </div></div>