<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 11:12 AM, ttoine <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ttoine@ttoine.net" target="_blank">ttoine@ttoine.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div> <br></div><span class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">Another issue are the Linux (audio) communities. There unlikely is a<br>
place with more narrow-minded narcissist then Linux (audio) communities.<br></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>I agree. This has always been a serious issue, from the beginning of Ubuntu Studio.</div><span class=""><div></div></span></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes and no. Any audio community is like this IMHO, post a question somewhere on how to do X with Reaper running Windows 7 och you get 12 replies "By a Mac Pro you idiot!". Or vice versa.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">The bottom line is that you need to use Linux the way it is and if you<br>
expect an easy way to make music in the way as most people do it<br>
nowadays, then don't use Linux. If you want to make music in an old<br>
fashion way without experiencing issues, then don't use Linux.<br></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>If me and others would have been thinking like that 10 years ago, Ubuntu Studio would not have been created at all. We were optimistic, enthusiastic, and we did it. The best proof in fact is that you are contributing to it.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Not sure what is meant here. I use US to record music in an old fashion way. I want to record like I did on tape. I don't cut and paste in my tracks. I don't use sequencers. If I record something I play it until right. But I stopped even that and do one take only, but that's another story.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><span class=""><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">What you want stays out of reach.<br></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>We can change the game if we promote manufacturers who provide Linux support for their hardware. We can also accept to speak clearly about non free professional software that are working on Ubuntu Studio.</div><div><br></div><div>So, at the moment, you are right. But in the future, it depends on us.</div><div><br></div><div>So again, the question: do we do that with Ubuntu Studio ? or does it need a new project with another name, like Elementary OS and Mint ?</div><div><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, I think Ubuntu Studio is still the way to go forward. We might not be allowed or able to include propriatery software in the ISOs, but if we make great documentation on how to install and use for instance Lightworks, that's reaching a long way. With any luck, since hardware developer in some areas are opening up to Ubuntu we might get some advantages there being an official Ubuntu flavour when lobbying hardware creators. Trying to lobby for XYZ Studio might be harder than to say, "Look you are already supporting Ubuntu how about just making these updates for Ubuntu Studio?". Not that I have any experience with lobbying hardware manufactorers but ...</div><div><br></div><div>/Jimmy</div><div><br></div></div></div></div>