[ubuntu-studio-devel] Fwd: Bug#888657: ladish: should this package be removed?

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 17:37:27 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>On Sun, 28 Jan 2018 16:52:45 +0100, Ross Gammon wrote:
>>Hi All,
>>
>>It is very likely that ladish/gladish will be removed from the Debian
>>archive soon, as it is not maintained upstream, and needs to be ported
>>away from GTK2.
>>
>>Whilst we can probably keep it a little longer in Ubuntu, unless
>>someone steps up to take over maintenance (and do the porting work),
>>it will be lost eventually.
>>
>>Do we have good alternatives?    
>
>We always had the best alternative over all those session manager crap,
>by writing a script to launch apps, move them to the wanted workspace,
>make connections for everything, as long as MIDI interfaces shouldn't
>share the same name. However, when e.g. using two or more identical
>envy24 PCI cards as MIDI interfaces, there anyway is no solution to
>handle the issue, other than each time after a session was started, to
>manually reconnect all MIDI connections. Appart from writing scripts,
>audio session managment never was a Linux domain, IOW ladish/gladish
>and Co. (Claudia), was crap from the very beginning. Nice for me Linux
>audio misfit to hear that I'm proven right and all the loud-mouth hobby
>engineers at LAU are proven wrong, since it's plausible that nowbody
>wants to maintain this crap. It's not nice that GTK2 seems to go the
>way of the dodo bird, since GTK3 is garbage, e.g. see
>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2018-January/293310.html
>and
>https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2018-January/293311.html
>and follow-ups.
>

Or take a look at
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/evolution-list/2018-January/msg00123.html
and follow-ups.

The only good news is that even the completely broken discontinued
ROXTerm still is more usable than all other VTE-based and not
VTE-based GUI terminal emus.

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