[ubuntu-studio-devel] Would Ubuntu Studio Team be Interested in Partnering with New England Conservatory?

Set Hallstrom set at ubuntustudio.org
Sat Jul 9 10:53:36 UTC 2016

lördagen den 9:e juli 2016 kl. 12:02:02 CEST, Jimmy Sjölund 
<jimmy at sjolund.se> skrev:
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Would Ubuntu Studio Team be 
> Interested in Partnering with New England Conservatory?
> Local Time: July 9, 2016 11:06 AM
> UTC Time: July 9, 2016 9:06 AM
> From: set at ubuntustudio.org
> To: ubuntu-studio-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
> fredagen den 8:e juli 2016 kl. 19:31:14 CEST, Jimmy Sjölund
> <jimmy at sjolund.se> skrev:
>>> We could set up a
>>> video call or Google Hangout if you would like to discuss a bit
>>> more easily.
> Have you joined canonical Jimmy?
> No.
> Afaik, ubuntu studio has no tools for video conference available.
> No, not really.
> I'm no one to tell you if you should or not join efforts with NEC to help
> them free their computing, but if you do; please do so on your own behalf.
> If you want to include the team to spend time and energy in a video
> conference to help a third part, at least make sure you discuss the options
> with- and set up the tools for the team first.
> No, of course I wouldn't set up a meeting for someone else. If 
> Devin would be interested to discuss open source with someone in 
> the community I would try to make that happen, within my own 
> schedule. As he wrote it was difficult through email I suggested 
> another form of communication that might be easier.
> Misunderstand me right, I'd love to see you point us to existing tools or
> set freesoftware video conferences up so that the devel team can discuss
> internal issues more easily. However, hangouts or skype are no options.
> How the devel team discuss internal things was not in scope. I 
> suggested using a video conference or Google Hangout with 
> another person, hence the "we". Not "we" as everyone on the 
> list.
> As Canonical (or anyone else) has not found any good 
> alternative so far, all Ubuntu conferences have used Google 
> Hangout for years. Unfortunate yes, but until good alternatives 
> are available that is what they have chosen. As I suggested a 
> call with someone outside of the open source world a hangout 
> might be the best way to start as it much more likely that they 
> have used it before or at least will be able to easily set it up 
> to discuss matters. At a later stage other means of 
> communication might be used.
> Saying that it's not an option to use anything other than free 
> software it's quite narrow minded and not very productive. What 
> you chose to use for internal discussions within the devel team 
> is up to you and the team. Besides, what I use as a person to 
> help someone out, who is considering trying to use open source, 
> is up to me.
> Surely, I would not make any promises or speak on behalf of the 
> whole community or Canonical or anything. But to listen to NEC 
> and their questions and perhaps point them in a direction to get 
> answers. That's how the community works.
> /Jimmy

it is very hard and confusing to read your emails, jimmy. you do not quote 

when you write 'we' in the context of the list you have to expect being 
read as speaking on behalf of the team. for personal matters please use 
email off-list.

as for your implication of narrow minded attitude, i reckon that is a 
matter of POV. However, as you may know, this is a foss mailing list.

Of course we should listen to NEC, non the less to use the teams sparse 
ressources to set up specialized ressources is detrimental to our focus. 
Given it is used properly, email is an excellent format to develop ideas 
and concepts, o is IRC. Ubuntu Studio is in itself proof of this statement.

Set Hallström
Sent from my Ubuntu pocket computer

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