[ubuntu-studio-devel] -controls

[Ross Gammon]

Hi Len,

I don't really have much spare time contribute comments here, but for 
sure I will try out the ppa sometime soon.

But I just wanted to chip in with some encouragement. I like where this 
is going :-)

Regards,

Ross


On 07/12/16 13:53, eylul wrote:
> Len,
> Lets assume I am an user. :)
> I want to create a new boot setup (with system tweaks). I have to set up
> the system tweaks, twice on each tab. (or change the boot setup, then be
> mystified why settings aren't affected as I change them).
>
> Similarly presets doesn't help me at all, if I want to switch back and
> forth between 2 setups.(unless I want a preset change that also affects
> audio setup AND tablet setup AND boot setup). I have to change things
> manually to use the in session tweaks (and potentially look up every
> time what correct setting is).
>
> This is why it is important that the system tweaks are its own profile,
> where there can be a default one to use in boot.
>
> Similarly the current preset solution requires me to recreate the audio
> setup (and graphics setup) each time I create a preset for any reason.
> It makes much more sense for these to have their own profiles, and
> having a default one on boot. (then underlying structure can deal with
> issues like: does this mean jack is started on boot or not).
>
> Also each of these have different change rates:
> * Boot decision is something that will likely rarely change.
> * For audio: there might be a couple of profiles that switches back and
> forth (for 2 recording setups with different sample rates, or a graphics
> or gaming profile that turns off zita to avoid extra processing power
> waste. :D)
> * Graphic tablet setup on the other hand, ideally changes every time one
> switches software! (one of the primary aspects of more professional
> tablets is that they have shortcuts buttons on the side and most
> artists/designers like to adjust them to various shortcuts by program
> basis. Some open source programs do allow their own overrides but not all)
>
> Ralf is right in that too many choices will cause more user problems in
> the end, and that the GUI needs to be arranged based on how users
> perceive what they are doing, rather than how we know things actually
> work under the hood. Some extra options (in this case, under the ability
> to create a profile) for advance user will be there but even then it
> needs to not assume user knows what happens under the hood.
>
> E.g.: checkbox to change CPU profile to performance: What is my CPU
> profile when it is unchecked? (ergo, why I had a drop down menu for
> selecting CPU profile in my wireframe).
>
> I hope these are helpful, rather than discouraging. By the way 2
> relevant concepts to this design discussions.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_fatigue
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareto_principle (80/20 rule)
>
> I'll try to finish a layout draft based on what you sent, later today. :)
>
> Best
>
> Eylul
>
>
> On 12/07/2016 08:13 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> Don't try to solve user problems that don't exist!
>>
>> Consider to join the Ubuntu users and some Ubuntu flavour users mailing
>> lists.
>>
>> On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 16:09:39 -0800 (PST), Len Ovens wrote:
>>> Audio setup:
>>> 	Master audio interface
>>> 	Second choice master (disable unless master is USB)
>>> 	sample rate (default to 48000)
>>> 	On USB Audio plugin set USB AI to jack master enable
>>> 	Choose if other audio IFs should autorun zita-ajbridge
>>> 	Jack runs at boot enable (this should be default for Studio)
>> Apart from the fact, that it might conflict with Linux howtos, a
>> beginner would be overwhelmed. What is a master interface, what is zita?
>>
>> What files will be overwritten?
>> .config/rncbc.org/QjackCtl.conf? /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf?
>> /etc/default/rtirq? ...?
>>
>> Less is more. An advantage of Linux are human readable and
>> writeable configurations and a good documentation. Another advantage is
>> that Linux requires some amount of self-responsibility, such as reading
>> the fine manual.
>>
>> Constructs like "Second choice master (disable unless master is USB)"
>> are an indication for a bad GUI running wild.
>>
>> GUIs not necessarily make things easier for the inexperienced user,
>> they could make things more complicated.
>>
>>> 	/etc/init.d/ubuntustudio-controls would be the actual file
>>> that set system things during boot
>> Ubuntu now only supports systemd and no other init system,
>> so /etc/init.d is an approach against the Ubuntu policy. Ubuntu
>> flavours must follow the Ubuntu policy. It is planned to replace all
>> init scripts by systemd units, not to add additional init scripts. The
>> latest release even doesn't give the choice between upstart and
>> systemd anymore, only systemd is available. There still is init script
>> compatibility, but systemd is not only the default, in addition upstart
>> can't be chosen anymore, it doesn't exist anymore.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ralf
>>
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