[ubuntu-studio-devel] Artwork license

Mike Holstein mikeh789 at gmail.com
Mon Sep 21 22:19:01 UTC 2015

On Monday, September 21, 2015, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ralf.mardorf at alice-dsl.net');>> wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Sep 2015 09:28:15 +0200, ttoine wrote:
> >why not the latest CC-by-sa 4.0 ?
> Hi,
> I don't want to read texts I'm anyway unable to understand, because
> they are written in lawyer language, instead I prefer to read how to
> make a svg file look equal, what ever application is used to open the
> svg file.
> Assumed I should use the Ubuntu Studio logo from the
> ubuntustudio-icon-theme package, can I update the license?
> $ dpkg -l ubuntustudio-icon-theme|tail -n1|awk '{print $2" "$3}'
> ubuntustudio-icon-theme 0.16
> $ grep CC-BY-SA /usr/share/doc/ubuntustudio-icon-theme/copyright
> License: CC-BY-SA-2.5
> [ironic] If somebody should misuse a Creative Commons spray paint
> stencils, would the police in some countries knock on the doors of the
> copyright holders? [/ironic]
> Sharing art was much easier in the punk-rocking 80s. Still today I
> would make my own art public without a license.
> The other question was about meta data add by applications. I didn't
> miss a law that nowadays enforces us to mention the used tools to
> create a jpg, png, svg?
> For art I made in the past I never mentioned Canon AE-1 Program,
> DeVilbiss Aerograph "Super 63", Yamaha DX7, Yamaha SPX90II, Fender
> 150XL or what ever else was used.
> A wallpaper I already made without the Ubuntu Studio logo includes
> $ exiftool Pictures/moonstudio_wallpaper_1.png | grep Comment
> Comment                         : Created with GIMP
> because it's a default for GIMP. Is it just craving for recognition by
> the coders or do they help to fulfil laws?
> I never mentioned, if I used a Da Vinci Kolinsky or a No-name
> Kolinsky or if I used water-colours from Schmincke or not.
> My understanding is, that comments mentioning the software that was
> used can be removed. Namespace data for svg sometimes perhaps can't
> be removed, but I guess it's allowed to rename "Adobe" to "foo" and
> "Inkscape" to "bar".
> I'm serious! I've got concerns against all that sharing of data.

No one will make you share anything. Is that the question? How to make a
file with no meta data? I think, it's safe to assume graphics are created
and/or edited in a graphics manipulation program. Identifying said program
really just does that. It identifies the tool. Advertising for said tool is
a great reason. Maybe the developers of gimp would have more to offer on
the decision to include metadata that identifies the tool. I'm +1 for
leaving that identifying information in by default. I'm sure we can discuss
constructively how to create a file in gimp or Linux, generally, without
said identifiers.

> Making art I don't have secret recipes, I'm willing to share all
> information, but I dislike to include advertising and privacy data to a
> file of a picture or song.
> Regards,
> Ralf
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