[ubuntu-studio-devel] Elementary OS

[Len Ovens]

On Fri, 4 Sep 2015, ttoine wrote:

> 64 Studio, Dynabolic, AV LInux, ... were not easy to use Linux distros. e.g:

I agree, after trying some of these, I ended back with Slackware and 
AudioSlack. Ubuntu was usable for me. Really, the HW I had was not as good 
as the Atari Megga2 I was using for sequencing along with an F8 fostex 
open reel 8 track.

> The fact is I now many sound engineers who are fed up with the way you work
> to record and mix in Pro-Tools. The music creation is another workflow, you
> do that with Cubase, Logic, or Live. And yes, you are right most of plugins

There are a lot of different styles of recording. Personally, I am very 
linear. I like almost live as second to live. I would never use anything 
from one chorus to the next as I expect them all to be at least slightly 
different. The same words have different meaning because of the verse 
coming before. I do not really understand the Ableton Live/LMMS style of 
stuff, but do know some people and styles of music require it. Finding SW 
that helps just makes sense.

> and software are not available for Linux (and I spoke a lot about that with
> Steinberg...). However, some industry leaders are taking that in account,
> like Harrison. And Harrison customers are industry leaders too in recording,
> movie, broadcast, etc. Bitwig, created by former Abletong employee, is also
> a very good creative tool.

Pointing people at non-free plugins that we can't include would be good. 
Running win/OSx plugins is still not reliable. Installing Wine wants to do 
bad things to my system too.

>       Most people aren't interested in a Bob Katz meter, they want
>       mastering
>       software that is state-of-the-art.
>
>       Most people want loudness-war mixes.

Any SW that offers K* meters also offers peak meters. Right click (as 
always) is your friend.

> You are wrong, it is nearly over. iTunes, Youtube and Spotify are now
> requesting specific parameters for the masters, and will automatically lower
> music level to match the spec. Just follow that kind of news:
> http://dynamicrangeday.co.uk/news/

Good.

>       Another issue are the Linux (audio) communities. There unlikely
>       is a
>       place with more narrow-minded narcissist then Linux (audio)
>       communities.
> 
> I agree. This has always been a serious issue, from the beginning of Ubuntu
> Studio.

Please look at this from both sides. People start friendly and answer 
questions freely, but they do get tired of answering the same questions 
over and over. Having a list of sites to point people at is good. Also, 
some new users are just incredibly rude. The "You have to support this" 
attitude shows up often enough to rub anyone the wrong way. Some of these 
requests make sense even, but require a lot of work and are not going to 
be worked on right now or even in the next year. Some users do not want to 
hear this.

Many users act as if they had paid for the distro/SW/whatever and must be 
served on a 24/7 basis within seconds of saying "hello". They are not 
willing to read anything, but rather expect to talk to some real person. 
Then they expect that person to guess their setup (ESP?) and do not like 
to be told "that won't work". Many of these queries can only be answered 
by people who understand the technical side of things... and these people 
get worn out.

We need tools to help ease this.


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Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net