Ubuntu changes get worse: Now Digital Rights Management is under discussion
lukefromdc at hushmail.com
lukefromdc at hushmail.com
Sat Mar 9 20:00:02 UTC 2013
Since MIR is a display server, the "DRM" block could refer to mesa hardware acceleration
or to digital rights management. If it's the latter, a derivative distro would have to run either
another version of Mir (if source is published), Wayland, or good old fashioned X. I still think
they'll need a special kernel, and would have to use a BSD kernel for license reasons unless
they rely only on secure boot of a special build.
You may be right about using something like Ubuntu Server as the base of all "non-consumer" installs.
So long as they keep a clean kernel either in repo or as the basis of Ubuntu Server, derivatives
could all base on that. Certainly, installing to server, then calling only your top-level packages
from apt-get would give a stripped-down, clean install with no crap. Best of all, server disk images
fit on CD and are small. Perhaps a deriviative distro would then be a second disk that runs after
a server install, with scripts to ask the user any questions and then install the correct DE, themes,
workflows, etc, and nothing else? This approach would let the whole storm of changes ride under
On 03/08/2013 at 7:22 PM, "Len Ovens" <len at ovenwerks.net> wrote:
>On Fri, March 8, 2013 11:13 am, Hartmut Noack wrote:
>> Am 08.03.2013 12:31, schrieb Kaj Ailomaa:
>>> On Wed, 06 Mar 2013 20:16:17 +0100, <lukefromdc at hushmail.com>
>>>> I've looked into rebasing my entire install directly on Debian
>>>> first the Amazon mess, now the Mir mess, and finally word on
>>>> that Ubuntu is looking into supporting digital rights
>>>> to run on smartphones. They are abandoning the free and open
>>>> and will HAVE to do so if they want to be a third commerical
>>> There's no indication what so ever, of what I can see, that
>>> abandoning free software.
>>> Please read what Marc Shuttleworth wrote in response to a lot
>>> been going on lately.
>> I fail to find anything of the above mentioned in this Blog-
>> one only talks about the(quite odd) rolling-release idea. Not a
>> word on why a Shopping Lense is installed/active by default and
>> regarding DRM.
>> Did he post something on these issues(after the September 23
>Ubuntu's page about MIR definitely shows a block called DRM. It is
>talked about much and I don't think it is an "open version".
>full consumer oriented phone/desktop/notepad/whatever would have
>something that deals with DRM or it would not be complete.
>While I don't think the major distros are trying to move away from
>SW, I do think they are moving away from distros that are
>developers/content creators/hobbyists towards distros that are
>to consumers. They are simpler with fewer options and include what
>wanted by the average consumer. This makes a lot of sense, if I
>like it or
>not. If Linux is going to expand, it has to meet the needs of the
>who do not use Linux at this time. The biggest group of people are
>who just want to be entertained, be it movies or games or
>people are looking for an appliance with the OS that comes with it
>a way it need never be mentioned (or updated). They will buy a new
>after a few years anyway rather than update the OS.
>The main thing that will keep the hobbyist happy is that Linux will
>continue to support the server industry. The nice thing about MIR
>it seems to at least have a completely new name. So it should be
>to have vanilla X instead.
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