[ubuntu-studio-devel] New for saucy

lukefromdc at hushmail.com lukefromdc at hushmail.com
Wed Aug 28 17:15:21 UTC 2013

I've had great results using Cinnamon in video production, with 
multiple workspaces , with Kdenlive, Audacity, and Gimp all running
at the same time. No idea if it will last, or if gnome-shell's "classic
mode "(now not very customizable) will replace it, or what. One thing's
for sure, I'm not going to use any tablet/phone style DE for my work.
I've also learned that it is MUCH easier to maintain something locally on a 
rolling OS than it is to create even a script for new installs from scratch!

GNOME itself has become unstable, with the interface for "extensions"
to customize it broken literally every new release. It's a nightmare for
developers to deal with that, which is why Mint forked their code. I used
gnome-shell frippery (GNOME 2 style interface) for years, but had to pin
gnome-shell every cycle until about a month after release for extensions to
catch up. Some I could maintain locally, but others I could not.

>From what I hear, XFCE, Cinnamon, and MATE are all rising fast in 
popularity, gnome-shell is sinking in popularity , don't know how Unity is doing.
A tablet style interface is on the verge of sinking Windows 8, to the point that
the entire PC industry has seen their sales plummet as people don't want 
Windows 8. In that there is both a lesson and an opportunity. Guess MS was 
too dumb to learn from the GNOME 3 and Unity controversies.

Looking back-and seeing just how well US Raring turned out, I think XFCE was a good
choice for US as a whole.

On 08/28/2013 at 9:20 AM, "Len Ovens" <len at ovenwerks.net> wrote:
>On Wed, 28 Aug 2013, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> Do you plan to switch from Xfce to Cinnamon? I don't understand 
>> devel thread.
>Not at all. I think we have addressed this question before 
>actually, but, 
>we are trying to make most of the workfows work on any DE. The 
>ubuntustudio ISO and distro will remain xfce.
>> I installed Cinnamon and Mate to my Arch Linux and decided it 
>not to
>> install to my Ubuntu Studio, because both DEs can't be used 
>> for a production environment.
>I had problems using it for even playing around with, but that is 
>my HW. The whole graphics HW area is a pain. All the manufactures 
>want you to know what is inside their box... but they all boil 
>down to an 
>interface that takes the same commands to do the same things 
>anyway. They 
>should put the driver in firmware and offer a standard interface 
>to the 
>computer... IMO. I have three computers (with graphics, some 
>things too), One too old one too new and one too slow :P
>Len Ovens
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